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Burgers: A Review

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/11/2018 12:36

Alabanza retweeted these reviews:

BURGERZ by @travisalabanza was an absolutely phenomenal piece of work. So intricately written with such an important message, perfectly woven into a performance that felt both fierce and tender - all whilst deeply rooted in authenticity. Oh and the direction? Sublime 👌🏾

I saw the matinee of #Burgerz by @travisalabanza yesterday and it feels so special to have been there. Part emotional release, part humorous romp, part ritual - retelling and reclaiming of trauma - it was flawlessly managed and controlled. Hats off! Such strength and beauty 💜

Alabanza didn't retweet this one:

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1058834677828644867.html

Which is a shame as it appears to be very accurate (and entertaining) Enjoy Grin

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 06/11/2018 23:34

I’m sorry they got something thrown at them, but I think I the show would have been more properly focused if it had been a sausage.

AncientLights · 06/11/2018 23:28

Travis wants to raise awareness of the harms done by racism, transphobia and homophobia. So does that mean Travis is gay? But if Travis is non-binary how can Travis be attracted to someone of the same sex (or gender if we're being Stonewall about it) if Travis doesn't have a sexual identity? Or has gay been redefined as NB attracted to NB and I missed the memo? My brain hurts. Again. Still.

Ereshkigal · 06/11/2018 21:40

Well done Trav for bringing the suffering of white men back to the centre of feminism where it should be.

Oh yes. We truly need to consider their needs more.

Anyone suspect that levelling "cis" white men and white women is part of the plan here?

LangCleg · 06/11/2018 18:10

Burgerz puts a microscope on gender

Checking for salmonella?

FFSFFSFFS · 06/11/2018 17:00

"So often feminist circles will use the white cis man as the emblem for all these things that are wrong, and I'm guilty of it too," Travis explains.
"But what you realise in having him on stage is that he is so much more complex. You realise, 'Oh he's hurting too. We're all hurting'."

Love. It.

Well done Trav for bringing the suffering of white men back to the centre of feminism where it should be.

I applaud thee.

ContessaGoesMarchingDOWNTOHELL · 06/11/2018 16:48

Look what I found!!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46098515

AngryAttackKittens · 05/11/2018 23:16

Has Travis threatened to sue? If so I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's not as if Travis can afford a good lawyer what with not being able to pay for taxis and all.

KatVonGulag · 05/11/2018 17:06

*themzies feelingz my hobbitz

FFSFFSFFS · 05/11/2018 16:29

Ah RiverTam. I see. You were being A Disrespectful Woman.

tsk tsk.

It is very sad that mumsnet silences the voices of women who are disrespectful of men who want to violate their boundaries (and when I say their I mean women, not dear Travis).

The "women must be kind" repressive tool is so deeply entrenched.

I find it surreal that a moderator would take the time to proactively confirm how a man wants to be referred to (as opposed to how he is categorised according to the English language) and then tell women off for being so rude to him and maybe upsetting his feelings.

RiverTam · 05/11/2018 16:21

and I'm not misgendering Travis, Travis claims to be non-binary.

RiverTam · 05/11/2018 16:20

FFS I may have been a tad rude about Travis, but if, as a grown man, you try to force your way into a female changing room in a shop frequented by teenaged girls and then go to the press and kick up a fuss when you get stopped, you are a public figure and fair game and certainly not someone I have to be polite about.

I'm fed up of these egotistical people kicking up a fuss when the publicity they so clearly want doesn't always go their way.

FFSFFSFFS · 05/11/2018 16:06

travisalabanza.bigcartel.com/product/lyft-2-safety

If I get the bus and save some £s, I can donate to keep him safe from the potential threat of women not leaping to rescue him from burgers.

This genuinely infuriates me. In my life I would have spent thousands and thousands on taxis so I was safe. It has never crossed my mind to crowd fund for this. Jesus wept.

bluetitsaretits · 05/11/2018 15:47

For some reason I hear "they's website" in the voice of Phil Harding from Time Team

KatVonGulag · 05/11/2018 15:06

My pelvic floor is not up to this thread or the thought of Travis draping Travis's self over a skip for a photo shoot.

Classic Grin

BeUpStanding · 05/11/2018 14:11

This thread has me howling! They's website especially 🤣

I had the chance to watch them's work of staggering genius and heartbreaking beauty, but couldn't abide the thought of giving they a tenner.

Surely it's a matter of time before thee and thou make a come back?

And yes, I've had stuff shouted and thrown at me too... Once as a young skinny teenager wearing black leggings and DM boots standing at a bus stop, and a bloke shouted 'OI! GOLF CLUB!' at me, which is nearly as inventive as the Swan Vesta comment Grin

FFSFFSFFS · 05/11/2018 14:07

“It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.”
― George Orwell, 1984

FFSFFSFFS · 05/11/2018 14:04

Oh I can't remember what you said RiverTam?

RiverTam · 05/11/2018 13:48

why the hell have I been deleted? I didn't say anything that isn't true or in the public domain, I didn't misgender Travis (who doesn't identify as female, btw).

IKeepFlouncing · 05/11/2018 13:32

I found the answer

Burgers: A Review
LangCleg · 05/11/2018 12:51

Whatever happened to ze and zir? Did they go out of fashion? What about all the innate essences of the ze and zir people? Are they in Gender Identity purgatory?

AnchorMum · 05/11/2018 11:53

Did Travis really have a burger thrown at they?

Or is they just weaponising mince-based products?

Ereshkigal · 05/11/2018 11:15

Really it would just take all the fun out of it for them, because keeping us on our toes, guessing What to call them and punishing us when we step on a land mine is where the appeal lies. It’s a power thing.

Oh yes.

Badstyley · 05/11/2018 11:14

They would never allow such a sticky. They’d say they were being singled out. Really it would just take all the fun out of it for them, because keeping us on our toes, guessing What to call them and punishing us when we step on a land mine is where the appeal lies. It’s a power thing. It’s like when I used to ask my ex what he wanted for tea and he’d say he didn’t mind, then whatever I prepared would be wrong and result in an evening of Nasty belittling comments. @MNHQ would get on like a house on fire with my ex.

Melanippe · 05/11/2018 10:50

If anyone does do a list of TRAs and their preferred for this week pronouns, please be aware that this will be posted all over Twitter as a "trans kill list" and an effort to "dox trans people".

FFSFFSFFS · 05/11/2018 10:18

Hi Travis (waves)

Males are excluded from spaces where women and girls undress because they (as a class) make (many) women and girls feel threatened and (many) women and girls don't like taking clothes off in front of men who they don't know.

Males who want to be in places where women and girls take their clothes off are pretty awful people - whether they wear lipstick or a dress is irrelevant to that.

It is more distressing for these women and girls then having a burger thrown at them.

Maybe you can incorporate that into your show?

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