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Jordan Peterson on Question Time next Thursday

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HandsOffMyRights · 02/11/2018 20:44

As somebody fairly new to the self ID debate, could somebody please tell me how Jordan is connected? And what (if anything) this means for next week?

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LassWiADelicateAir · 09/11/2018 00:49

I'm about half way through. They spent 26 minutes on knife-crime and stop and search. That seems excessive. It is a major concern in some parts of London but did it merit almost half the programme?

VillersBretonneux · 09/11/2018 00:13

He spoke up for free speech and against no platforming. I was pleased.

LikeDust · 09/11/2018 00:13

Totally hid behind her - didn't he even say he didn't necessarily agree with her?

birdsdestiny · 09/11/2018 00:12

I don't think he hid, I think he was defending her and shining a light on it all. He may or may not agree with her and it wasn't a question about the transgender issue it was about free speech. I really liked him.

VillersBretonneux · 09/11/2018 00:12

I thought I picked up that he -didn't necessarily agree with her -or some similar formulation?

Freespeecher · 09/11/2018 00:08

Was it just me or did Aaronovitch hide behind Bindel rather than give his own opinion on the Trans issue.

LikeDust · 09/11/2018 00:05

I was glad Julie Bindel got a mention.

TrashyTerf · 09/11/2018 00:04

The Irish woman was very rude. She kept speaking over everyone and didn't listen to Dimbleby.

Freespeecher · 09/11/2018 00:04

Too much audience participation at the start then, at the end with Dankula etc, no participation at all.

LikeDust · 09/11/2018 00:04

I thought he did well. I agreed with most of what he said although disagree a bit on the priorities. He was being uncharacteristically disciplined in his word choices.

birdsdestiny · 08/11/2018 23:56

I thought he came across well there, better than in some of the one to one's I have seen. More importantly what has happened to question time, I haven't watched it in a while and thought it was flabby and just all over the shop. David dimbleby didn't control it sufficiently. Great to hear the defence of Julie bindel.
Jordan Peterson does sound vaguely sinister when he states the UK does not yet understand the mistake they have made in curtailing speech, but as we are finding out he is right.

Freespeecher · 08/11/2018 23:54

Also it seemed that Mairead was being paid by the word.

whathaveiforgottentoday · 08/11/2018 23:53

I liked the panel tonight. Lots of good points and sane voices especially in the last segment on free speech.

Freespeecher · 08/11/2018 23:52

Wish JBP had had more time to speak (as opposed to Diane Abbott saying she spoke to people who died at Grenfell).

Iused2BanOptimist · 08/11/2018 23:51

Don't know what they paid him to appear but value for money wasn't had as they hardly gave him a chance to speak. Big anticlimax.

LassWiADelicateAir · 08/11/2018 23:50

If the vast majority of someone's supporters are screaming dickheads, then that person is almost certainly a dick

That statement says more about the poster than anything else

Yes indeed. It fits one poster to a t.

2rebecca · 08/11/2018 23:43

Pleased with the opposition to hate crime and no platforming

TrashyTerf · 08/11/2018 23:37

The Times journalist just mentioned Julie Bindel's no-platforming in reference to the Grenfell effigy and free speech. He supports Bindel.

VillersBretonneux · 08/11/2018 23:37

Julie Bindel getting a mention.

TrashyTerf · 08/11/2018 23:34

JP has come across as the most reasonable and thoughtful so far... he's also had the most cheers.

lucydogz · 08/11/2018 23:30

FAR too much audience. JP being remarkably restrained and making good points.
If the vast majority of someone's supporters are screaming dickheads, then that person is almost certainly a dick.
That statement says more about the poster than anything else.

2rebecca · 08/11/2018 23:29

I have no idea what most of Petersons fans are like. I bought one of his books and think he's interesting but I disagree with him on many things. My son is more of a fan. I think we're both sane but I suppose I would. Most of the generalisations about him and people interested in listening to him come from people who seem OTT in their dislike of him. Most people I know interested in him like some of his stuff and dislike other stuff

ReanimatedSGB · 08/11/2018 23:19

If the vast majority of someone's supporters are screaming dickheads, then that person is almost certainly a dick.
I was prepared to give Mark Meechan the benefit of the doubt, for instance (and I still think that prosecuting the stupid little man was a waste of time and public money) but the amount of slavering support he was getting from various 'contentious' alt-right figures made me less enthusiastic about him and his behaviour.

2rebecca · 08/11/2018 23:13

I don't watch this very often but don't recall the audience getting as much time to give opinions before. Too much audience

TrashyTerf · 08/11/2018 23:13

He's made some good points so far about the problem of male violence

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