Yes there are more than two genders Tshirt

What a load of rubbish.

So, as a GC feminist, I’m reporting for transphobia.

I feel so bad now for laughing :(

(not)

Yup, there are like 7billion 'genders'. Fuck all to do with sex though, which is male/man and female/woman.

Many trans people feel they are the object of a witch hunt.

As do many women, by TRAs.

Interesting that some seem to be willfully missing the point of this thread though.

I think it just shows everyone wants a piece of the cash cow, irrespective of what they actually believe.

TRAs claim that "man" and "woman" are gender identities, so how are they differentiating the sizing between two social constructs that are essentially just feelings? How dare they be so hypocritical as to enforce the gender binary - where is the non-binary option!?

And if it’s about style, who is to say that one style is feminine and one masculine?

Yes - of all items of clothing a t-shirt is pretty easy to sell in unisex sizes.

Fancy sizing t-shirts by a social construct. How utterly transphobic of them. It must be horribly triggering having to buy clothing in a gender you don’t identify with. I shall be writing a strongly worded email asking why they don’t do a polydemisemimultiunifeminacnutroisgender T-shirt, and telling them it’s triggered my PTSD as a result. Honestly, it’s like us polydemisemimultiunifeminacnutroisgender people don’t even exist. I feel erased, the bigots.

I would agree that this mas mockery, rather than irony, if the shirt came in Male Fit and Female Fit. But it doesn't. It comes in Men and Women.

The GC view is that Men=Male and Women=Female. But the very people who insist that there are more than two genders consider that defining everyone according to the binary man/woman view is wrong. So non-binary female-bodied Sam, who likes a shirt that fits ver curves, and doesn't sag over ver shoulders in order to accommodate ver hips, is going to have to accept reality and order the women's fit.

I disagree that 'sex based clothing categories' are normal to distinguish differences in clothing sizes.

'Small, medium, large' are commonly used. Not 'man' and 'woman'.

Why does anybody need to be classified by any gender at all?

Isn't this the crux of the argument between transactivists and radfems? That radfems reject the concept of gender and transactivists rely on it?

I agree with NutterButter that it makes perfect sense that the t-shirt comes in sizes based on sex characteristics- it wouldn't come in sizes such as non-binary or gender-questioning as gender doesn't dictate clothes sizes.

I don't think it's funny. I think it's confused and endorsing segregation by gender.

There are more than two genders. Fine.
Fits come in man or woman- these are sex based categories normal for clothing sizes. Fine.
It’s really only funny if you’re trying to laugh at some kind of perceived trans faux pas.
So, as a GC feminist, I’m reporting for transphobia.

Feminist4 arrives on thread, virtue signals and leaves. Standard. The irony of the sizing is funny regardless.

No doubt I’ll get a load of replies picking apart what I’ve said with pseudo intellectual arguments, so I think I’ll switch off

Shits and runs 😂

@ToeToToe I'm well aware of what the concerns are about the GRA, my point is that this thread is simply taking a cheap shot at something trans-related, which rather undermines the claim that safeguarding concerns are the only thing in play here.

It isn't the irony of the t-shirt sizing options that I'm failing to find amusing, it's the fact that any and all opportunities to mock and discredit trans people are so gleefully seized on.

It's disingenuous to say that it's all about protecting women, a lot of people are just enjoying jumping on this particular bandwagon and having the opportunity to bully and mock others while feeling righteous.

ohello's most excellent post sums it up for me.

I do find it amusing when people steam onto a thread calling the women here bigots - completely ignoring the posts like the above, that explain women's concerns so clearly.

I wonder why these posters are so quick to believe that so many left wing feminist activists, some of whom have fought for equality for decades, have turned into phobic bigots overnight - and yet are absolutely willing to believe that absolutely any man absolutely is a woman just because he says he feels like one.

The two photos would actually not be so contradictory if trans activists themselves didn’t conflate sex with gender.

Feminists have always said that gender is fluid to the point it’s a social construct while biological sex and people’s perceptions of it is what oppresses women.

But transactivists want to eradicate the physical distinction made between the sexes and allow male bodied people into women’s sports, prisons, physical safe spaces, etc. The places segregated by sex not gender.

Which is why the M/F size question is so funny.

HTH

Lmfao!

god, are we still in missing the joke land?

heavens

We're not bigots and bullies. We live in a democracy but are being told #nodebate.

The irony of the t shirt is hilarious 🤣

'demonising' don't be ridiculous.

Start thinking for yourself. Start thinking come to that.

I had to check if I'm honest and the definition online was this:

bigot definition: 1. a person who has strong, UNREASONABLE beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life..(my emphasis).

I don't think it's "unreasonable" to hold the view that sex and gender have two different meanings. And I don't think it is bigoted to point out how some people get in a bit of a muddle over this. So many people conflate the two. Don't they?