30 yr old school pupil reported to Home Office

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This man looks like an adult male who the hell thought he could possibly be a child ?

Where are you seeing the picture

3/4 where found to be older than 18

www.thelocal.se/20171204/impact-of-swedens-asylum-age-assessment-tests-revealed

I remember the 'child' refugees arriving to great fanfare. The ones they showed on TV were clearly in their twenties.

Anyone expressing that was branded a racist and told 'you try living in a war zone and looking young' as if the middle aged ageing process in any way relates to the adolescent one.

When kids grow musculature, height and facial hair it hardly indicates stress. The opposite would surely be the case.

I suppose the trans parallel here is people on the left expecting others to deny the evidence of their own eyes in favour of a narrative that better suits an agenda.

This man looks like an adult male who the hell thought he could possibly be a child ?

The young men at their school aren’t hopping on the privileged ‘trans’ bandwagon. They are trying to make a life in the UK whatever it takes basically

Does "trans" have to be shoe horned in to every issue? Are you trying to make excuses ? It reads as if you are saying,well they might have lied through their teeth as to why the UK should accept them- but at least they are not trans?

These young men are cheats and liars. They would presumably fail to be accepted as refugees and lying about their status does not make me warm to them.

I remember reading about huge problems here in Ireland - in order to safeguard child refugees, if an unaccompanied child turned up no questioning was allowed. The result was grey-haired men presenting as being unaccompanied minors, who couldn't be refused being treated as such.

The naivety of thinking that people don't swap hints online for how to take advantage of systems meant to safeguard children!

Sorry - that was in reply to Danaquestionseverything

It's refugees not migrants. They won't have that kind of paperwork.

the general line was that children from these cultures look older

That was a plain, barefaced, brazen lie, and I’m amazed anyone swallowed it.

I would only add there was strong pressure to believe that untruth, for reasons undisclosed. In essence, Packing, I think your feelings about policy are right.

I have a relative who’s a paediatrician... she has been called to treat a refugee boy. She had to refuse because she is untrained to treat adults. I guess you can’t blame individuals for trying to escape war zones but it IS a safeguarding issue.

I was told of a similar case in Scotland about 20 years ago (a Scottish born and bread 'pupil'), you'd think it couldn't happen now. Not really a feminist issue but still bizarre.

Not good. Sorry for what may seem a stupid question, but do you have ESL course for migrants in the U.K.?

Only reason I ask is that once that is completed there are usually pathways to other types of learning. Might be a way to avoid possible adults at schools.

You could swear an oath and get it changed on your birth certificate

The problem is that paper like the Guardian will never print anything that puts immigrants or refugees in a bad light. Whilst they deserve some credit for this, they need to remember that they will therefore be partly responsible when things go wrong.

Also, why only protect one group? Surely, they should be protecting all groups, including GC women? But no.

Sorry, another Guardian rant...

And paedophiles have posed as school pupils to groom young victims and their families.

This was a case from Portsmouth.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2478350/Paedophile-who-posed-as-school-pupil-admits-abucting-girl.html

I think the Portsmouth Head Teacher let the rules slide in admitting this adult 'school pupil' - she admitted him to Year 10 mid-year without properly seeing his parent, which would have unmasked the whole fraud - and the result in terms of safeguarding was catastrophic.

Rules matter for safeguarding.

I heard about this from some secondary school teachers locally a while ago. It’s not a made up Daily Mail thing. The young men at their school aren’t hopping on the privileged ‘trans’ bandwagon. They are trying to make a life in the UK whatever it takes basically.
But this is absolutely yet another reason against mixed sex toileting and changing facilities in schools.

That is horrendous
He’d Been there since the start of term but I’m guessing everyone was too scared to raise it.
Awful awful. How do they verify ages of refugees? I remember this concern being raised ages ago and it all went quiet...

Good point Lass. I see this alot with regards to the Mail in particular. They report loads of stories about male violence that other papers ignore, they even reported on the obgyn dying the woman's genitals as a prank earlier this week when I didn't see any other british media doing so. But even with photographic evidence anything the Mail says must be ignored.

I agree packing

We are supoosed to believe they are malnourished and look older for their age as a result when clearly adult muscular bery developed bodies are in front of our very eyes or we are racists.

Well it's like everything isn't it. We pretend we don't see what we see and we don't speak up for fear of being branded "ist" or "phobic" or both . So we allow safeguarding to be completeky disregarded whilst never questioning who and why people would want safe guarding ignored

What has this got to do with women's rights?

Nothing in particular. It is another example of the tribalism of the Left. If the right wing press or right wing politicians raise the issue, which they did, then it can't be true.

Women's rights include safeguarding. I'd say an adult male pretending to be a child counts.

What has this got to do with women's rights?