Are those with autogynephilia shouting 'TWAW' ashamed of their fetish?

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cockBlocker · 31/10/2018 22:26

I'm wondering if some of these younger guys who experience AGP (and not gender dysphoria) are insisting that they are women so vehemently because they are ashamed of their fetish? It's been much discussed that the trans rights movement is a men's sexual rights movement when it comes to AGP, but I also wonder if some of the more woke crowd feel ashamed of their kink because they genuinely do want to consider themselves as feminists. In that case, they may be in denial of the sexist reasons why dressing as a woman turns them on and instead claim they are women themselves to legitimise their non-politically correct fetish. Kinks are impulses rooted in social taboos, after all, so it's not surprising if cross-dressing with its sexist undertones becomes more alluring in a time when women have gained more power in society, and it doesn't necessarily reflect misogyny otherwise, just as a woman with a fantasy of being dominated doesn't usually want that IRL. At the same time, people can't bear to have their kinks ridiculed, but the term 'transvestite' (which the heterosexual, penis equipped men tend to be) conjures up quite a comical image due to portrayal in the media, so all the TWAW shouting may also be a pathological re-branding, a way to transgress once again. I know someone whom I think may be behaving like this, so I wondered what anyone else thinks. Sorry if this topic is repeated elsewhere, but I haven't seen quite this take on other threads yet.

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NotTerfNorCis · 01/11/2018 06:19

I've seen high-profile TRAs admitting that the thought of being female turns them on, but then they claim that's just normal female sexuality. It isn't - we don't fetishise ourselves, our clothes, the social stereotypes associated with being a woman. With AGPs the focus is on themselves as a fetish object.

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cockBlocker · 31/10/2018 23:10

So if you admit that you’ve got a fetish for pretending to be a woman, then you’re ruining it for yourself.
That makes perfect sense, and also why they claim AGP doesn't exist.

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cockBlocker · 31/10/2018 23:08

It could just be my own need not to see this person I'm quite fond of as a misogynist, perhaps I'm making excuses for them in a self-sacrificing, female socialised way.

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HomeStar · 31/10/2018 23:08

It’s not just the younger woke crowd who are in denial. The denial and shame are built into the fetish. The fetish is to think that you actually are a woman. So if you admit that you’ve got a fetish for pretending to be a woman, then you’re ruining it for yourself. Because women don’t have fetishes for pretending to be women.

Can’t say I’m able to wrap my head around it, but that’s what I understood from how Anne Lawrence explained it in her writings on autogynephilia - Anne is an autogynephile herself and did some pretty important work fleshing out Blanchard’s theories.

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cockBlocker · 31/10/2018 23:01

I absolutely agree with the men's sexual rights element to this, but I was also wondering what other motivations there might be driving the TWAW stance.

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Gncq · 31/10/2018 22:51

Transvestites have been eradicated, what was once something done behind closed doors has become very public under the rebranding "transwoman" which now includes your bog standard AGP and male suffering from gender dysphoria.

It is worth remembering that cross dressing (AGP) is the number one most common paraphilia in sex offenders. Women were not consulted when it became cross dressers became transwomen and then trans women became women.

Who has benefited from this rebranding promoted largely by Stonewall and all political parties?

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