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The Guardian - Swim England in deep water over women's swimwear advice

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thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 30/10/2018 18:41

What about swimwear advice for men who don’t look anything Adonis-like? Yeah thought not.

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/30/swim-england-in-deep-water-for-swimsuits-to-flatter-women-advice

Swim England’s guidance on choosing swimwear has been criticised for focusing too much on the shape of women’s bodies.

The national governing body for swimming in England suggested on its website suitable costumes for female swimmers with short or long torsos, in the plus size bracket, with a “pear shape”, with a large or small bust, a “flabby stomach” or “boyish body”. The web page was later taken down.

“Ensuring you have the right swimwear for body shape is vital. It’s important to be honest with yourself or the person you are buying for. It can make a world of difference,” the guidance noted.

‘Honest with yourself’ Wtf Angry

A Swim England spokesperson said: “This was an old web page from 2010 that does not represent the views of Swim England. As soon as it was brought to our attention we removed the page and are in the process of replacing it with more appropriate information. Swimming is one of the most accessible activities for people of all ages and abilities. We want everyone to feel comfortable in the water and apologise for any offence this old information may have caused.”

2010, oh well that explains it then eh Hmm

Thank you to Simone Webb for bringing this to the public’s attention. Tbh I don’t expect any better from Swim England so I’m not surprised.

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 30/10/2018 22:05

"both the BBC headline image and the image that popped up when I shared it on Facebook seem to be of men. Male swimmers, in men’s swimwear, to illustrate an articulate about women’s swimwear."

Are you assuming their gender??!!!??

KatVonGulag · 30/10/2018 21:54

They are right about that colour thing though. I had this amazing swimsuit all red around the boobs and black below. Worked wonders.

I loved that swimsuit.
I'm crap at swimming though Grin

Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:47

Fucking hell, Badger. Did they mean pear shaped?

Badgerthebodger · 30/10/2018 21:44

Two things to note: firstly, I’m absolutely willing to be told I need to get to Specsavers but both the BBC headline image and the image that popped up when I shared it on Facebook seem to be of men. Male swimmers, in men’s swimwear, to illustrate an articulate about women’s swimwear.

Secondly, I’m sharing a screenshot of what popped up in my (Siri?) suggested websites. I obviously haven’t clicked through. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that clicking on “Choke pear (torture)” will bring me anything apart from a deep disgust at some of my fellow humans.

WTAF.

The Guardian  - Swim England in deep water over women's swimwear advice
GrinitchSpinach · 30/10/2018 21:24

No, it's Hillary's famous "cankles" lost her the election. And still male friends who consider themselves progressives tell me sexism played no role in 2016... Hmm

OldCrone · 30/10/2018 21:23

You can read the whole thing here. Date is 2016 not 2010.
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180322215331/www.swimming.org:80/justswim/guide-to-choosing-swimwear-for-women/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20180322215331/www.swimming.org:80/justswim/guide-to-choosing-swimwear-for-women/

GreenGloves · 30/10/2018 21:17

being pear-shaped has "often been the plague of women

It's held me back all my life. Lost Hillary the election too.

Binglebong · 30/10/2018 20:56

"Draw attention to your more appealing characteristics."

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/swimming/46034939

Binglebong · 30/10/2018 20:54

The BBC article gives some extracts. Was way worse that The Guardian suggested.

MoggyP · 30/10/2018 18:52

If there was similar advice for corralling cock and balls, and depilation, for greatest streamlining and speed through water, then I might just at a push believe it was a performance issue.

OTOH perhaps this is the way ahead, and there needs therefore to be a slew of articles about how MAMILs should dress (some things, unfortunately, just cannot be unseen)

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 30/10/2018 18:47

Nah they’re All Man™️ innit.

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FekkoThePenguin · 30/10/2018 18:44

What advice for the Pilsbury Dough Boy swimmers I see every week?