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Guardian on 'Toxic Trans Debate'

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MawkishTwaddle · 30/10/2018 07:42

Guardian

Ends with Stephen Whittle telling a sob story about his man feelz, which is a straw man argument imo, but still - good to see it covered in The Guardian.

Even if I had to read it under a bus.

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scepticalwoman · 30/10/2018 08:22

It is evident that the Guardian (and the BBC) have finally been shamed into having to report this issue in a more balanced way - ie by acknowledging the GC view. That's a reasonable article. We'll know when they have finally reached a balanced and honest reporting position when they openly report and condemn the violence, harassment , threats and intimidation that come only from trans activists.

The Times are continuing their consistent coverage with this article today:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lecturer-s-job-fear-after-raising-trans-concerns-dstp8p7zz?shareToken=e0a51506027e6fa386bb230f51807948 today

LemonJello · 30/10/2018 08:17

supposedly feminist backlash.

Hmm
Gncq · 30/10/2018 08:15

It's about being able to lie about your birth certificate.

OldCrone · 30/10/2018 08:14

They say they would welcome a properly evidenced discussion but that feminists such as Freedman are unfairly trying to position them as extremists, which “will have the effect of shutting down the debate”.

What happened to #nodebate?

OldCrone · 30/10/2018 08:12

proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act that would make it easier for trans people to have their preferred gender legally recognised.

I wish the media would be more honest about the GRA. It's not about 'gender', it's about changing legal sex.

Efferlunt · 30/10/2018 07:55

The new argument seems to be that trans rights activists have tried to engage in respectful debate on these issue but the hysterical response from womens’ groips is ‘turning the debate toxic’

NotBadConsidering · 30/10/2018 07:53

It’s buried on the Education page though, not linked from the front page, like the Anonymous opinion piece was. This is just their way of saying they’re doing their bit for balance without actually doing their bit.

Mumminmum · 30/10/2018 07:49

At least they are finally presenting the other side: That women are being abused for expressing concerns about their rights.

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