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Another claim of abusive 'TERF's against the poor helpless trans women

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Blocker · 30/10/2018 03:24

I'm a bit of a lurker here but a mother of two daughters and a son, and I strongly support keeping women safe in women only spaces and coming up with another option to keep everyone safe.

Reading the news from my home country and this one sided article caught my eye. Pity there's no evidence or opportunity to see the attack's that we'd made. Hopefully the link works...

We asked a trans woman to speak on our #metoo panel. Then the abuse began. thespinoff.co.nz?p=163247

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Blocker · 30/10/2018 06:34

I just found it a very one sided piece, admittedly an opinion piece rather than a news article.

I would just love to know what kind of concentrated attack they came under after asking a trans woman onto the panel, and the complete vilification of TERFs once again.

It sounds a bit like histrionics, but without providing details of what was actually said it's just pitting Trans/ TWAW/ "radical" feminists against each other and feeling the fire further, despite as a PP as pointed out the sexual abuse help organisation describing itself as inclusive already

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ABitCrapper · 30/10/2018 05:50

Agreed. From that article it seems it was a non exclusive sexual abuse survivor organisation - for males and females. Not a female only refuge. So asking a transwoman sexual abuse survivor to speak was actually very appropriate. They absolutely deserve to be heard and listened to. I just don't believe in TWAW

VenusInSpurs · 30/10/2018 05:01

I think it is pretty bad that the NZ organisation and their speaker was attached like that.

It is an organisation that supports all who are survivors of sexual abuse, not solely a woman’s organisation. I am Gender Critical, I have concerns about self id, and I fundamentally object to the anti-free speech shouting down that is part of the TRA movement.

But shouting down, or attempting to shout down, an organisation giving space to the voice of a Transwomen of longstanding about abuse of Transwomen on a panel of an organisation that supports ALL survivors of abuse is actually transphobic, surely?

Coyoacan · 30/10/2018 03:46

It's very hard when we don't know the people involved or New Zealand law. Also we don't know what they are referring to when they say hate speech. The fight in the UK is against self-ID and a lot of transexuals seem to on our side.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 30/10/2018 03:40

I’d be interested to know if the comments were actually nasty, or just along the lines of, “yeah, not a woman”. The histrionics which accompany even the mildest of criticisms amplifies any comments at all into, you know, literal violence.

But fuck the #wetoo shit. It’s like the #alllivesmatter nonsense. Just for once, white men, step aside, it’s not all about you.

FeckTheMagicDragon · 30/10/2018 03:36

If trans want trans safe spaces why are they not asking their allies to get them set up?

Blocker · 30/10/2018 03:24

*that were made obviously

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