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Grazia- Polly Vernon

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SeeTwoTo · 29/10/2018 16:55

Because I doubt any of you read it . Grin

I agree with her and think she’s brave. I’m irritated, annoyed and upset that I have to call her brave for having an opinion and putting it in print.

Polly, I don’t do Twitter, so I’ll say it here. .If I ever see you in the pub I’ll buy you a G&T.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 31/10/2018 14:18

Thanks for putting this here OP, you're right I wouldn't have seen it otherwise.

Polly has made a very important point about an inevitable result of the #nodebate, one I hadn't seen. That by not discussing the subject, the TRAs also can't argue their point and persuade people that they are right. And the unpersuaded will become unpersuadable ("entrenched").

I do think this will work against them. I can certainly remember being contrary whenever anyone was highhanded to me (still am), and #nodebate is nothing if not highhanded.

NaturalBornWoman · 31/10/2018 14:05

I don't buy mags but I've bought this one deliberately to leave in the hairdressers on Saturday

SeeTwoTo · 30/10/2018 13:05

That’s a good idea likedust.

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LikeDust · 30/10/2018 12:06

Would be good to donate your copies to the GP/Hospital/Dentist waiting room when you've finished with them. Smile

Sarahjconnor · 30/10/2018 09:14

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ChattyLion · 30/10/2018 09:05

If you look at Polly Vernon’s insta, it’s full of cocks! She needs to get herself in touch with her inner #stickerwoman Grin

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 07:59

It's a good article for an important demographic. I personally can't stand women's mags (I feel oddly depressed after reading them - they are too full of things I apparently should be interested in but am not, so I start to perceive myself like I am not womaning right), but I know a number of women who find them very relaxing- and steer conversations away from my 'latest' concerns, so this article will reach them better than me.

Roystonv · 30/10/2018 07:16

Don't care what publication such an article is in, it is all grist to the mill. Concise, to the point and will hopefully reach a new audience.

CountFosco · 30/10/2018 07:08

I think it's a good article and it'll reach an important demographic

Exactly this. Grazia has a younger and more female demographic than The Times etc. It feels like GC is tipping over into the mainstream.

And for the cynics about women's magazines, Grazia this week had articles on the anniversary of #metoo, period poverty in Kenya, and an interview with Jodi Picoult about her latest book and the threats to abortion rights in the US. All in among the fashion and beauty. It's a clever mix.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 29/10/2018 23:56

I think it's a good article and it'll reach an important demographic. The more it becomes socially acceptable to be gender critical the better.

I don't hit any snags for being GC because I'm older and my friends don't think TWAW anyway. Younger women are more inclined to be nice and accepting, I think. They need to be alerted.

AngeloMysterioso · 29/10/2018 23:34

Here’s a screenshot of the e-magazine version if that makes life any easier

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Floisme · 29/10/2018 23:21

I think she tweeted in support of Janice Turner over the suicide business too.

LassWiADelicateAir · 29/10/2018 23:13

She has re-tweeted some of Janice Turner's tweets and a critical one by Giles Coren.

WAHF · 29/10/2018 20:49

Yes @Shopgirl1

Well done Polly. Has she had any stick from it?

Shopgirl1 · 29/10/2018 20:46

Gender critical?

Shopgirl1 · 29/10/2018 20:44

Can someone explain GC?

ChattyLion · 29/10/2018 20:33
Grin
Floisme · 29/10/2018 20:28

And my spelling wasn’t good enough Grin

Floisme · 29/10/2018 20:28

I could have been a rad gem but they thought I was too flighty.

SeeTwoTo · 29/10/2018 20:21

I thought it was interesting as she’s hardly a rad fem I wasn’t a radfem either until recently, just a vacuous woman. Now I’m both Grin

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Badgerthebodger · 29/10/2018 19:54

India Knight is far too grounded not to be GC.

NaturalBornWoman · 29/10/2018 19:50

It's a good piece. Lots of women will read it.

ShimmyShimmyYa · 29/10/2018 19:34

I thought PV could well be GC
Intelligent, irreverent and the "right age"
Respect.

ChattyLion · 29/10/2018 19:14

Well said Polly! Flowers I hope you read this. Women are being silenced everywhere. You are exactly right to call out this authoritarian #nodebate shitshow

GoldenBuns · 29/10/2018 19:10

I have seen tweets from PV that have made me think she has been GC for some time. India Knight, also.

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