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Kai Shappley: A Trans Girl Growing Up In Texas

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Vegilante · 29/10/2018 03:53

New video, by the pro-trans, queer arm of Conde-Nast called "them", about a very young transgender MtF child whose mother is suing local & state authorities for not letting the child use the "women's room" at school.

The video is far more revealing than either mom or filmmakers realize.

Mom recounts her extreme homophobia, which led her to inflict draconian cruelty & physical abuse on her poor child for the "sin" of "acting like a girl" & "liking girl toys". But no matter how much mom beat her girly pre-schooler, he "persisted" in acting girly & liking girly things. Finally, at approx 7:30, mom recounts realizing before Kai was 3 that he "might be gay. And I thought that could not happen. That would not happen..." Unable to live & let live, mom's only option "to make Kai not like this" is conversion therapy, which entailed "spanking her - really spanking her" every time Kai acted girly.

But as her probably gay little boy remained deeply unhappy, attempts to punish him out of being girly all failed. So after a staged shot of the child praying for his family to have love & courage, at approx 9:00 mom recounts her Damascene realization: "my kid was praying to die. All of the information & data that I had read about transgender children having a 41 percent risk of attempting suicide came flooding back & I realized that I had a 4-year-old who was begging the Lord to let her die... (rather than) stay here & have to live as a boy one more day."

From 11:28 on there's a clearly-scripted & rehearsed scene in which the child complains about his school. What 6 yo speaks of using the "women's bathroom" at school (where kids would call it the "girls' bathroom'")? There's some weird, incoherent stuff about how having locks on the doors & "people stealing magnets" make the the boy pee in his pants. None of this makes sense. But surely it's cruel to make a child recount his/her experience of bladder "accidents" for a YT video when the child says he's embarrassed by them.

To top it off, this young child by the end is blaming his bladder accidents not just on locks & magnets, but on other people he's been told to blame - specifically his teacher's boss. Clearly this youngster has been coached to see all problems he encounters as the fault of others. Talk about male socialization!

Throughout, what the video actually shows contradicts what the mother says in her voiceover.

I see what this video recounts as child abuse done in the name of religious fanaticism. The real transition here is the mom's. She starts off as a conservative Christian zealot & at the end she's an acolyte of the woke new cult of transgenderism.

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HamiltonCork · 19/11/2018 19:24

As the mother of a gay son this just makes me profoundly sad.

happydappy2 · 19/11/2018 19:18

How anyone can watch that & not be horrified is beyond me. What has happened to the older sister? Where is the father? The Mum has admitted beating her son....and is now lying to them saying they are a girl. Child abuse.and the little child looks so cute, perfect poster child for the trans agenda, sickening.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/11/2018 19:18

So how do the religious loons reconcile god making a mistake (oops, gave that one a willy by mistake) and god being infallible?

We live in post-lapsarian times ... it's all Eve's fault, of course.Hmm

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/11/2018 19:15

Oh I see. I never liked the story of Job.

OlennasWimple · 19/11/2018 19:12

God isn't literally infallible, as in never makes mistakes. God sometimes sets his true believers challenges to test their faith (such as them having no money, or cancer, or being beaten by their parents)

The overlap between religious conservatism and transgenderism is significant, especially in the US (and Iran)

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/11/2018 19:06

So how do the religious loons reconcile god making a mistake (oops, gave that one a willy by mistake) and god being infallible?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/11/2018 19:05

The child was probably praying to die because their mother was breathing seven bells out of them.

Better trans than gay, eh?

VickyEadie · 19/11/2018 19:03

placemats

Yep.

placemats · 19/11/2018 18:54

Cleansing out the gay. Trans is now the marginal.

Oh and the bible is so important in all of this.

Munchausen by Proxy is written all over this.

HamiltonCork · 19/11/2018 17:30

I’m not at all religious so please forgive me if I inadvertently offend someone.
Presumably if your child is trans (with all the fake hormones and horrific surgeries) you are making a public statement that God made a mistake. I thought he was supposed to be infallible. I just don’t get it.

Manderleyagain · 19/11/2018 17:20

This trans girl featured in a film which was shown at a church event I went to recently about transgender children. It was a different film (I can't find it online) - many narratives of children and teens including one who had surgery. Kai was one. Some of the footage was in both films. They were all American and some were taking a Christian angle on the issue which I guess is why the film was used at the event.

I was horrified by how every single one related their story through sex stereotypes - usually clothes and hair. But there was a shot of a trans girl in ballet lesson, stuff about toys etc. It was awful. None of the young children (some as young as 4 or 6 I think) expressed any actual discomfort with their body, they only expressed discomfort with what was expected of them because of being male or female.

If anyone knows what the film I am looking for is I would be grateful.

Three clergymen spoke. One spoke sense. One was so happy clappily in love with the whole idea of being supportive and loving towards people that he had fog in front of his eyes about what this actually is. Dodgy suicide stats were quoted. Aaagh.

I came home and cried and then drank too much red wine.

I have since emailed the clergyman who spoke sense to just agree with him and say thanks for saying it. I can't bring myself to write to the one who was super positive (even about medical transition for children/youth). I really should but I don't know how the hell to start.

Anyway this film about Kai linked above just further illustrates one of the problems which was obvious in the film I saw too. This time with explicit homophobia. Thanks for posting it.

OrchidInTheSun · 29/10/2018 10:13

I couldn't watch it all but noticed that Kai and mum talked about an older sister and how Kai's behaviour as a baby was like the older sister but she had never wanted her hair done in such a 'girly' way as Kai does. Kai says 'but maybe she does now and we don't know' and the mum agrees.

Where is the older sister? Why isn't she in contact with the rest of the family? She isn't mentioned in any of the many interviews Kimberley has done (and neither is Kai's father).

Incidentally, Kai has always had access to gender neutral bathrooms in the school but mum is pushing for access to girls' bathrooms.

This woman is an abusive homophobe.

KatVonGulag · 29/10/2018 09:56

I thought the mums opening statement was a measure of it. When she was talking about kai not being like her male babies.

I mean wtf? And beating the gay away???!!!! Woman's a lunatic

As for the toilet situation. Unisex provision alongside sex based should help children like Kai.

Materialist · 29/10/2018 09:54

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FloralBunting · 29/10/2018 09:40

I read an article about this case the other day. It's a textbook example of the truly regressive, hyper conservative nature of the trans ideology, tbh.