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Famous undeclared GC people?

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ProfessionalBarren · 27/10/2018 11:48

Who do you think might be gender critical on the quiet? David Baddiel has just posted something about polyamory on a twitter thread about the doxxing of a GC uni professor. I think he must see this is all Pomo nonsense. Obviously we have Graham Linehan who’s been a compete star.

But are so many other intelligent, critically thinking famous people out there, especially the comedians, there must surely be some who are desperate to call out TRA bullshit. Where are they all hiding?

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rightreckoner · 05/11/2018 18:33

Yes Lewis Moonie is really going for it Grin. He is cool.

I wonder what it is about the men who get it and then get energised. Like Glinner and Lewis. What tipped them over (and where are all the others?)

TwistedStitch · 05/11/2018 17:05

Not a celebrity as such, but labour peer Lord Lewis Moonie is out and out GC. Constantly retweets GC accounts and is pretty forthright in his views. Here's him tweeting about Rachel McKinnon and also Harrop.

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Sexnotgender · 05/11/2018 16:50

Safe to say India Knight is sceptical!

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rightreckoner · 05/11/2018 16:31

Clare Fox is, shall we say, trans-sceptical.

Charliethefeminist · 05/11/2018 10:26

spectator.us/woke-go-broke/

Bill mentioned within

BettyDuMonde · 04/11/2018 22:45

Bill Maher is on his way - he’s gone from supporting bathroom bills to saying now that TWAW we need a new name for actual women (he suggests ‘woman: classic’) in his most recent recorded stand up show.

He also denounced contemporary pornography (calling it ‘rapey’ in his most recent chatshow) - he’s a mere TRA telling off from going full on swerf & terf, I reckon.

BarryHumphriesWardrobeAdvisor · 04/11/2018 14:32

Barry Humphries has been "out and proud" about this for years. He has been verbally abused for it in public a few times, but has said that his conscience won't let him keep quiet about it. :)

A lot of comedians in this list. Seems that their way of looking at the world critically, challenging authority and pointing out absurdities means that they're only a short step away from being GCers.

Charliethefeminist · 01/11/2018 08:49

It's a very good analogy you have drawn

Charliethefeminist · 01/11/2018 08:49

Yes I agree with all that tbh

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 01/11/2018 08:44

Charliethefeminist but they wouldn't work behind the scenes if this was any other form of bigotry. They'll happily condemn racism, able-ism, homophobia, Islamophobia. They'll condemn bullying and animal cruelty. But when it comes to misogyny they have to work behind the scenes and, to all intents and purpose, actively support the perpetrators of the bigotry. Their silence is a major reason the MRAs have achieved such high profiles, and why their agenda has become so mainstream. They would not have allowed this to happen with the EDL.

With a few notable exceptions they are cowardly, self-serving arseholes.

Floisme · 01/11/2018 08:42

I agree about MPs, and particularly the Cabinet Ministers James Kirkup writes about.

I appreciate it when a celeb speaks out and I sometimes get frustrated when they drop hints but won’t commit. But ultimately it’s not their job.

Charliethefeminist · 01/11/2018 08:41

Believe me, there are plenty of quiet TRA who about their business not announcing themselves, but are changing the wording on policy documents, tweaking algorithms, shoving Stonewall emails to the top of the pile, having friendly coffees with diversity heads. It worked for them for a decade and it's still going on.

Charliethefeminist · 01/11/2018 08:38

Also I feel sympathy for politicians as I'm out personally and professionally but not 'publicly' because it would be pointless and actually harmful to the things I'm trying to do. So my view is biased by that.

Charliethefeminist · 01/11/2018 08:36

Yes but they think that coming out will damage their behind the scenes efforts. Mine isn't out, but has written to Mordaunt expressing concern and asking various questions.

Chosennonetosurvivethenight · 01/11/2018 08:35

The League of Gentlemen.
Particularly the live show that toured recently, along with 'Babs cabs' and the LGBTQ+ alphabet soup. They had a 'problem page' section with the lady vicar character. She took the mick about people being so woke they were consumed by which toilet they went into etc based on someone identifying as a Unicorn.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 01/11/2018 08:24

I think with politicians there is something of a justification.

I don't. MPs who remain silent are the group I feel most contempt for. Not only are they are wilfully disregarding 50% of the people they were elected to serve, they are either complicitly, or in some cases actively, promoting an agenda which is harmful to those people.

And they are doing that as the group who have most recourse to security and legal measures to keep them safe.

Xenia · 31/10/2018 17:01

I htink thou was for people you are close to - may be a bit like the French vous and tu distinction? I sing Thee an awful lot all the time - in church music.

"The word thou (/ðaʊ/) is a second person singular pronoun in English. ... Starting in the 1300s, thou was used to express intimacy, familiarity or even disrespect, while another pronoun, you, the oblique/objective form of ye, was used for formal circumstances."

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2018 16:40

I'd be inclined to think anyone specifying 'thou' and 'thine' etc was gently mocking the pronouns thing tbh .... those are at least ones which could be used to thy face and are sex-neutral.

I've just remembered, I think there's a bit in Good Wives where the Professor likes it when Jo calls him 'thou', more romantic/Germanic or something.

ShimmyShimmyYa · 31/10/2018 14:27

I know, Errol! Isn't the genderist movement dramatic enough!!

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2018 13:31

when someone asks me to refer to “thee” or “thou”

That sounds like someone identifying as a particularly pretentious luvvie or suchlike ...

ShimmyShimmyYa · 31/10/2018 12:57

Sorry if already mentioned but I felt certain that "professional feminist", Emma Thompson would be GC
BUT, a quick google reveals how enthusiastic she is about this brave new world:
(Interviewer to Thompson)- "Has your thinking about feminism changed over time?"
(Thompson) "Oh yes. I find it incredibly exciting at the moment because this new generation of girls — Generation Z, I believe — are challenging me all the time. I’m learning new things. Gender fluidity is fascinating to me. Every time someone says you’ve got to learn words like cisgender or trans, or when someone asks me to refer to “thee” or “thou” I get so excited."
ah well...

Theswaggyotter · 28/10/2018 16:31

Ooh and Kevin Bridges touches on transing in his recent tour. It wasn’t too specific but certainly left you with the feeling he doesn’t think much of someone announcing they are trans - being working class I’m pretty sure many other working class Glaswegians would feel the same (certainly got a good response from the crowd in Glasgow)

Theswaggyotter · 28/10/2018 16:28

Robert Winston has spoken out re his concerns of transing children in particular the risk of rendering them infertile.

FeminismandWomensFights · 28/10/2018 16:09

Sorry posted too soon ^^ comedian Jay Handley

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