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Zuzanna Mroz in The Spectator

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TimeLady · 26/10/2018 19:41

"Take it from a trans person: Corbyn is wrong about self-ID"

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/take-it-from-a-trans-person-corbyn-is-wrong-about-self-id/

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 26/10/2018 21:22

Getting weary of the idea that who should qualify for entry into women's spaces is a question that should be thrashed out among various subsets of the population of male people.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 26/10/2018 21:21

You can't change from a male human to a female human no matter how much surgery etc you have.

No man has "physically transitioned" into a woman. I mean, literally. It's a superficial facsimile but as women are seen as "non men" so the rest follows.

I have hardened my views in this respect.

terryleather · 26/10/2018 21:16

With gin and cake, that should have said!

terryleather · 26/10/2018 21:14

I'll join you in the less-than-kind corner. All my fucks have been given elsewhere, I'm afraid.

I'm joining you lot there. With and 

Freespeecher · 26/10/2018 21:10

James Kirkup wanted someone to write the other side of the debate. Wonder if this article was supposed to be it?

Charliethefeminist · 26/10/2018 20:31

We had a compromise, this access Zusanna says they love and need so much. Well, they didn't fight for it, did they?
Transexual people didn't fight for it until women had 'loosened the jar' , in a decade long battle. Now they want garlands?

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 26/10/2018 20:27

Let’s be clear. Segregated female spaces are appropriate places for trans women who have physically transitioned into women via a combination of hormone therapy and surgery.

Let's be clear. This has never been the criteria.

The current GRC might well work for transpeople, but it doesn't work for all women and girls.

LangCleg · 26/10/2018 20:18

Too little, too late, too selfish.

Plus our womanhood. Nope. Fuck off.

I'll join you in the less-than-kind corner. All my fucks have been given elsewhere, I'm afraid.

Charliethefeminist · 26/10/2018 20:16

I'm sure kinder people than me will be along. But I'm sick of seeing this. Sick of it.

Charliethefeminist · 26/10/2018 20:14

Had to stop reading at 'female spaces are suitable for a certain kind of man ie me' (paraphrase) sorry.

People like this could have spoken out years ago. Now they see themselves in danger, they decided to ride the coat tails of courageous women.

Too little, too late, too selfish.