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Please stop, these boards are destroying my health

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Stoptheworldplease2018 · 26/10/2018 03:46

Dear Feminists

I first came on to mumsnet because I was physically assaulted by a "transgender" activist. I got all the "usual" responses and was informed of a multitude of different acronyms, words and descriptors I had never come across. The rabbit hole went so very very deep. Two years on, the feminists boards are still dominated by the "trans" agenda and as I have severe PTSD I find it difficult not to read them but when I do I become unwell again. It is like an itch that will not go away. I want to scratch it but know I shouldn't. Please please consider how these boards negatively impact the mental health of others. It is so disturbing to read so many threads about horrific incidents involving sexual abuse, physical assaults etc. I can here you yelling - well just don't read them - I really do not want to but like I say it is like the itch that will not go away. We all know every argument, every discussion point, every concern, can you not just put such discussions elsewhere for example in feminist theory where you could devise a theory to meet the challenges? I am so very very tired and cannot deal with the trauma anymore. Thank you for reading.....

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oatmealrats · 26/10/2018 06:41

I really do think transactivism is truly affecting the mental health of many women. There is a heavy layer of anxiety that weighs me down almost every day that I know is in direct relation to my knowledge of males trying to force their way into the category woman and lesbian. Looking all around you at friends and organizations and parties that you supported for so long supporting gender identity is terrifying. As a victim of sexual assault it is terrifying. One day I left my colleges LGBTQ club and just cried for an hour at the blatant misogyny and homophobia I witnessed. I decided I just couldn't go back. I think you have to acknowledge the limits of what you can and can't handle. I've joined many gender critical spaces over the years and to this day they still cause me anxiety. Sometimes it is too much and I have to step away from them.

I'm sorry you are hurting OP. I really do believe that you are experiencing mental anguish, but you cannot expect women to stop talking about these topics because they are incredibly upsetting to you. Women continue to talk about them because they ARE hurting women and the only way that things will be better is if women are able to continue discussing them.

I think you must take the advice of earlier posters and hide these topics or take time away from mumsnet completely.

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse · 26/10/2018 06:37

Another Friday, another thread with an anti-FWR-board title on active conversations...

Jezebelz · 26/10/2018 06:29

I'm sorry you are struggling OP, my partner also had a hard time with her mental health when posting on FWR (for different reasons).

MN can be like any unhealthy addiction and these boards can be quite ferocious. Recognising where the problem lies is a really positive first step.

If you are strong enough to delete your account then please do it, otherwise please go back to your GP, Mind or the Samaritans.

Good luck.

OzzyMadBat · 26/10/2018 06:11

I am surprised that the Samaritans or Victim Support phone lines have an agenda however.

OzzyMadBat · 26/10/2018 06:07

She doesn't want a trans ally - she wants the opposite: namely someone to discuss the assault on her by a trans activist. Unless I really was brain dead when I read this. There are no support groups I could find on this, potentially because there are more assaults on trans people than by trans people but without statistics - and statistics classified by sex rather than identity - it is difficult to come up with concrete numbers (collation is being done by transcrimeuk.com) for either side.

AugustL · 26/10/2018 05:57

It's shocking to hear that mental health services won't give you the help you deserve. Because of your views on trans issues? Because you were assaulted by a trans person? That's crazy, and disgraceful. I'm sure there is law to say how wrong this is.

AnotherOriginalUsername · 26/10/2018 05:29

mindtws.org.uk/trans-plus/

If you want someone to talk to

SwearyG · 26/10/2018 05:18

Part of dealing with mental health issues (and I have significant experience of this) is to take responsibility for what you can do. Taking control of something, however small, can be incredibly empowering and healing.

In this instance look at what is possible. Changing the behaviour of strangers or changing your own? There’s only one thing you have any control of in that and it’s your behaviour. You have to find a way to avoid what is so distressing for you, in the short term at least, and hiding these boards will do that.

In the meantime don’t give up on the therapy. There will be an organisation that will help you. Maybe one of the women’s ones? Or you could try online workbooks or similar? I know they sound trite and when I was at my illest I rejected any suggestion of them but they do help.

FurryDice · 26/10/2018 05:03

I’m a bit confused by this thread and not sure what the op wants. I’m sorry you’re suffering, op, but you can’t request that every other person stops discussing things that are personally troubling to you. You just can’t.

Feel better soon.

yorkshireyummymummy · 26/10/2018 05:02

This is not meant as ‘ goady’ - it’s a genuine question.
Why on earth are you still coming on mumsnet if it’s affecting you so badly?
There’s women who have PTSD from so many different situations- You have my deep sympathy for the awful event you suffered but the huge juggernaut that is MN will keep rolling on and the individuals have to change what they do rather than expect tens of thousands to change.

I really really think that since it makes you so ill and you have zero luck in avoiding it then you have no option but to block mumsnet and to stop torturing yourself.
If there are not any support groups you can find then why not try to set up an online one- who better to understand what it’s like than someone who knowas firsthand?

I wish you get on the road to recovery quickly but do yourself a favour and stay off here.

OzzyMadBat · 26/10/2018 04:35

Have the Samaritans actually refused your call?
Peaktrans.org I expect will not be much help to you in your current state but maybe the person who runs it under Contact might be able to refer you to support groups, long shot.
Although your circumstances may be very different I'm sure the women on here would potentially be a safe place to just talk - I often think just talking about the trauma somewhere safe can take the power out of it (in my case childbirth trauma) but there's a fine line I know between talking and reliving. I wish you luck.

Stoptheworldplease2018 · 26/10/2018 04:35

Yes have been to GP, was referred to Immediate Home Care Team after I collapsed with the stress, had 3 follow up visits to hospital team then discharged. No support actually given, mental health team useless as it was "trans" related and they have swallowed the ideology hook line and sinker.

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lovetherisingsun · 26/10/2018 04:31

X post, my apologies. Have you been to your GP? They may be better placed to better advise on how you can receive the most appropriate help.

lovetherisingsun · 26/10/2018 04:30

I'm confused, why wouldn't mind take you on? Because your fear is trans-related? I haven't seen a lot of championing on here either for trans - quite the opposite. Many threads about petitioning protecting the safety of women in safe spaces etc. Public forums can be very very harsh, if it's affecting you I definitely would hide whatever threads you can otherwise you're just purposefully torturing yourself. Take it from someone who knows- continuously looking at all the bad stuff only serves to make things mentally far far worse.

Stoptheworldplease2018 · 26/10/2018 04:27

The worst refusal I have had was from a womans mental health centre, they told me they were not "qualified" to deal with a "complex" case. It is just not good enough. I am not the only one in the UK that is struggling with trauma because of this insidious agenda yet there are no one to one support groups, only an online "discussion" group that is just as traumatic as the threads on here. It is a no win situation until there is a significant policy change more and more people will be harmed as I was and will have nowhere to turn

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ItsalmostSummer · 26/10/2018 04:25

Oh my gosh, if it’s that bad turn off your device. Clearly these things are making your mental health worse.
There no way we can say sorry we won’t say anything here in case you get upset. And if you choose to get upset because of our responses back to you post then again there’s nothing we can do. This is an online forum and it’s seen all around the world. Take people’s advice and block or switch off. Only you can control you. Sleep well.

Stoptheworldplease2018 · 26/10/2018 04:21

Thank you Ozzy, you would not believe how many organisations I have been to for support and have been turned away because it is to do with "trans", Mind is one of the organisations that refused to take me on.

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OzzyMadBat · 26/10/2018 04:16

www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/abuse/all-types-of-abuse/#.W9KGdpMzbtQ

There are two 24 hour phone lines here - The counsellors should have been trained to listen rather than judge and should be objective irrespective of their allegiances.

Stoptheworldplease2018 · 26/10/2018 04:15

PouringMilk A reason to get up in the morning, a reason to breathe in and out. Some days I cannot even leave the house the fear is so strong.

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PouringMilk · 26/10/2018 04:14

What purpose do you want? You can choose so many things.

Stoptheworldplease2018 · 26/10/2018 04:12

Pouring milk, I am trying all manner of things to try to cope, Remembering happy times, walking, reading, swimming etc. I am no longer able to work so do not have a "routine". It feels I have lost my purpose and the trauma is the last thing I think of at night and the first thing in the morning. It is a living hell.

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OzzyMadBat · 26/10/2018 04:10

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/1248206-How-to-hide-certain-topics

Trust me, it works. Please try it.
Sorry for sounding brusque - 4am insomnia, lack of sleep, aspie kid, business mode. Hug. x

Stoptheworldplease2018 · 26/10/2018 04:10

Thanks for the coffee and cake Ozzy, it is also 4am here I should be asleep but that evades me most nights as I wake up shaking

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Stoptheworldplease2018 · 26/10/2018 04:08

I have tried that SleepWarrior but when I look at threads "I'm on" the subjects are there so it is difficult to escape it. I really do not want to "shut down" conversation - thats actually the last thing - I just do not know how to handle it when every door is closed in terms of support. There is no "official" organisation within the mental health services that supports people who are critical of the entire ideology.

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