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Travez Perry - violent attack at high school

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FeminaSum · 25/10/2018 22:50

This video is really shocking. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6317165/Transgender-girl-charged-brutal-high-school-attack-caught-camera-says-bullied.html

Obviously it goes without saying that bullying is wrong, and should have been dealt with by the school. But this person kicking and stomping on people who are lying on the ground, resulting in their hospitalisation? That goes far beyond a response to bullying.

A commenter on GC Reddit whose daughter attends the school in question reports that the girl who was beaten has either a broken jaw or fractured skull.

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Danaquestionseverything · 26/10/2018 08:53

Horrendous.

I don't think anyone is raising bullies to hero status. We are mums, we know the consequences of bullying, either we've experienced it ourselves or had to deal with our own kids being a victim of it. A rare few probably haven't had direct experience but they sure as hell have offered support to another mother whose child was suffering.

On what planet is this considered a reasonable to bullying. It reminded me of that curb stomp in American History X.

TeaEnjoyingRadiantFeminist · 26/10/2018 08:53

Perspicacia I know it doesn't. I've reported my post for deletion. It was going to be a significantly longer post, where context of skin colour was relevant (in terms of trans prevalence in the US/death rates and the narrative of victimhood perpetuated by TRAs) but I got frustrated and deleted it. I realise how it looks without any context and that was absolutely not my intention.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 26/10/2018 08:53

^^disgusting

How much people seem to enjoy a female having her head caved in. All the more when they can justify it and enjoy talking about it publicly.

KatVonGulag · 26/10/2018 08:51

People on Penis New seem to be revelling in this.
No bullying could justify this level of violence. It's scary as hell.

Travez Perry - violent attack at high school
Beerincomechampagnetastes · 26/10/2018 08:50

Brave and stunning my arse.
Exploitative and abusive.
All you handmaidens understanding his point of view why not share some of that empathy for the young girl lying in hospital because she’s not even safe at school.
When you find out what a nasty piece of work he is you won’t be coming back here to own it will you?
I don’t have to wait for confirmation, it’s very clear to me that HE IS THE ABUSER.

FeminaSum · 26/10/2018 08:49

The bullying incident mentioned in the article was that the girl involved posted a photo of Perry on social media and made a negative comment. Now, this comment could have been something very nasty (which still would in no way come anywhere close to justifying the response) or it could have been 'this person is not female and I don't want them in the girls' changing room.' Because according to TRAs, that is bullying.

I'm fairly sure that '...says she was bullied' wasn't in the headline of this piece last night abc13.com/transgender-student-charged-in-brutal-attack-at-tomball-high/4549561/ but has been added in since. The Daily Mail piece also quotes people arguing that this was a normal and understandable response to bullying and that Perry needs 'help and support.' What about Perry's victims, who ended up in hospital?

Feminist4 are you saying that I invented this incident to spread an anti-trans message? Confused

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Ereshkigal · 26/10/2018 08:46

I’ve been bullied - sustained and vicious verbal bullying. I never hit my bullies but I dreamt about it every day.

Yes, so have I. And also a victim of emotionally and physically abusive DV. Which is probably not coincidental. In no universe would stomping on someone's fucking head be in any way understandable.

PerspicaciaTick · 26/10/2018 08:45

The colour of the attacker is irrelevant.

TeaEnjoyingRadiantFeminist · 26/10/2018 08:43

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RollerJed · 26/10/2018 08:41

And there are men @Feminist4 infiltrating woman's spaces, being absolute fucking arseholes. Now that is disgraceful Angry

StitchingMoss · 26/10/2018 08:41

Ohello, how do you know that? How do you know that’s all she said? She may have been viciously bullying this person for months/years.

Nothing justifies the response but the minimising of the affect of bullying on this thread is shocking.

I’ve been bullied - sustained and vicious verbal bullying. I never hit my bullies but I dreamt about it every day. Let’s not raise bullies up to hero status in an attempt to make a point.

PerspicaciaTick · 26/10/2018 08:37

Feminist4 are you saying the assault didn't happen? Or are you saying you support the trans assailant's right to attack? Or maybe we shouldn't be allowed to talk about it? Exactly what is the positive trans spin you are trying to put on this situation.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 26/10/2018 08:35

Stop trolling our boards feminist
It’s yet another man who’s found a way to beat in woman And claim to be the hero

Feminist4 · 26/10/2018 08:30

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littlbrowndog · 26/10/2018 08:26

Agree Micke that man was kicking a girl and stomping on her
God knows what injuries her and the other lad got
Criminal attack

Ereshkigal · 26/10/2018 08:23

That's not an understandable reaction to bullying, that's attempted murder.

This. There is no verbal abuse that could justify that.

Micke · 26/10/2018 08:21

Fucking hell. I don't want to watch it. That's terrible.

It is - she's on the floor, trying to protect her head, as he repeatedly kicks and stomps on it. Only stopped when a police officer runs in and tackles him away.

That's not an understandable reaction to bullying, that's attempted murder.

Sarahjconnor · 26/10/2018 07:50

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IdaBWells · 26/10/2018 07:18

Of course we do not have the full story and the extent of the bullying and how severe it was, or wasn’t, that will come out in court.

The fact is that this was not a fight or attack of two equals (or more, there were at least two people being kicked in the head once already down in the ground). Young women will attack and fight but it is relatively rare and the strength it took to be this violently vicious was because the attacker was a biological male and was physically bigger and stronger than everyone that was attacked.

The point is that the average male body is taller, bigger and stronger than the average female body and it is one of the many reasons that human cultures in their wisdom have had separate spaces for men and women.

NotTerfNorCis · 26/10/2018 04:50

Bullying is wrong, but if Travis had never claimed to be female, would people be supporting them?

NotTerfNorCis · 26/10/2018 04:49

Looking at the video, that is a powerfully built male person in stereotypically feminine clothes knocking down and kicking a woman. Am I allowed to say that?

Ereshkigal · 26/10/2018 01:47

Absofuckinglutely. A young man stomped on the head of a young woman he had already incapacitated. So fucking brave and stunning.

Fucking hell. I don't want to watch it. That's terrible.

DixieFlatline · 26/10/2018 01:19

The comments all seem to be coming from the POV of a girl being the attacker. Bullied or not, justified or not, not one comment referred this vicious piece of shit as "he". Yet it changes the whole tone of the incident if you do.
A young MAN attacked a young woman for saying things he didn't like.
Even if what she said was indeed cruel, the fact is he'd still be judged a lot more harshly if he wasn't pretending to be female.

Absofuckinglutely. A young man stomped on the head of a young woman he had already incapacitated. So fucking brave and stunning.

13thWarriorWitch · 26/10/2018 01:09

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Spasm0dic · 25/10/2018 23:51

Its all about appropriate responses. Girls who were really bullied at my school either left or responded with their own bitchiness. No girl ever responded like that. Physical responses were left to fights between boys. My thoughts go to the hurt girl and her friends and family.

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