Travez Perry - violent attack at high school

Fucking hell, that is considered to be horrific bullying by this individual, to justify their violent response? Unbelievable.

Tbh I'm starting to question mankind, too.

From the article failingatlife posted, here is the comment Perry claims justifies or is equivalent to the head-stomping Perry carried out:

She told police that before the altercation, the female victim posted a photo of her on Snapchat with a negative comment. Perry later told Channel 13 that the student took a photo of Perry while she was walking to the bus with the caption, "I'm questioning mankind."

The last time I saw anything like that horrendous video was the incident reported as "a gang of four women repeatedly kicked and lashed out at a man at Leicester Square Underground station" The two videos have remarkable similarities, stomping on your victim once you've knocked them to the floor seems to be standard practice for these sensitive flowers of womanhood.
www.thesun.co.uk/news/6618531/eicester-square-underground-station-man-attacked-women-gang-video/

What?! I struggle to dignify this creature with any pronoun other than “it” tbh. Fucking animal.

I see the thread reporters are out. Got my first deletion for not calling that person by their preferred pronoun. Oh dear. Never mind.

One thing’s for sure, he’ll do it again. Violent outbursts such as this are never one offs. A pattern of behaviour always starts with one incident, and as we know very well, men who offend in this way are almost certain to repeat offend. He should be punished by the law. No amount of harsh words can justify kicking the shit out of someone like that, no matter how brave and stunning that person is. I hope he doesn’t have access to a fire arm, although this is America.

There’s no excuse and no context that in any way mitigates the violence of this large male. If this bloke really had all the womanly feels inside and really was a girl trapped in a well built male body, then he just wouldn’t behave like this.

Without mentioning gender, if this film was shown to the man on the Clapham omnibus and they were asked to describe what’s going on, what would they say? I’m sure they’d be clear that they were watching a large man beat up girls.

I feel angrier at the apologists on this thread.
Every wife beater , murderer and rapist has an excuse.
You can’t defend the indefensible. Yet there are so many of you on this thread doing just that. Shame on you all.

One photo online and the accused believes that justifies beating two students into unconsciousness and hospitalised? The accused also believes, according to the report that “they both owe each other an apology”. The accused needs to be in prison for GBH as far as I am concerned.

Perry has pleaded not guilty according to this m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Allegedly-bullied-transgender-teen-pleads-not-13348773.php#photo-16391299

Every high school massacre is fuelled by some sense of grievence.

I just accidentally watched the start of the video. Sickening.

‘‘There should be consequences on both sides’’

Like having your head stomped on isn’t enough.

abc13.com/new-video-transgender-student-bullied-before-brutal-attack/4567667/

abc13.com/new-video-transgender-student-bullied-before-brutal-attack/4567667/

Couple of updates.

I think our idea of bullying varies too. When I was at school I was bullied. I was convinced of it and very unhappy. But looking back that's not the truth. People weren't "nice" but then they don't have to be. Bullying is proactive - actually doing something intending harm. With me it wasn't deliberate; I was just overlooked and the victim of some thoughtlessness. And we are all guilty of that.

My rather garbled point is that there wasn't necessarily any bullying. There may have been, we don't know, everything is speculation at the moment. It is being claimed that Travez felt bullied but that is not the same thing. It will almost certainly be used as their defence and as we cannot see feelings we can't dispute that where have I heard that before? but if that is the case there needs to be no evidence of bully presented.

Obviously bullying should be stopped and perpetrators punished. If it isn't bullying but someone feeling bullied then a conversation about being kind and including others is often a good idea.

At no point is trying to kill someone a way to deal. I hope Travez is locked away for a long time.

Is it just me or are some of the students laughing while this is taking place? Not taking away from what that person did, but not a single one of these muppets filming is doing anything to help.

That’s something that makes me doubt the bullying explanation. If this was a bully getting comeuppance the kids might secretly enjoy seeing it but they’d never laugh out loud because they know the bully would eventually retaliate.

Male batters female. In other news, bear shits in woods.

RedHood- nobody has said that all men are attackers. This thread is merely highlighting an issue: that transwomen retain male patterns of criminality. Ie the proportion of them who retain the ability and the impulse to attack women will be the same as the proportion of other males.

And in practice: yes it seems likely that transwomen batter, rape and kill women at the same rate that other males do. A frock and a new name does not change how likely or not a male is to batter, rape or kill a female.

Is it just me or are some of the students laughing while this is taking place? Not taking away from what that person did, but not a single one of these muppets filming is doing anything to help.

And stitchingmoss

"Nothing justifies the response but the minimising of the affect of bullying on this thread is shocking."

How often do you see kids being bullied doing this kind of stuff? Bullying is prevalent, it doesn't matter the reason, fat people get bullied, people with a quirk, geeks, people who just "look wrong", anyone and everyone can get bullied for anything.

Bruege - Perry's lawyer brought up the transition essentially as mitigating circumstances to the judge. If it has nothing to do with being trans, then why mention it?

If this wasn’t a trans girl people wouldn’t be leaping to her defence. That’s the issue.

I don't really get what this incident has to do with trans issues in general? It's a violent assault and the perpetrator is being dealt with by the law. That would be true whether this was a boy, girl, transboy, transgirl, whatever, wouldn't it?

Unless the judge is lenient on them specifically because of the trans thing (from the article in the OP seems like the trial is ongoing?) then what's the actually issue here?

when your innermost identity is at odds with biological reality, it must be difficult

It is. I am autistic and for years I identified as neurotypical. And, nope. I never 'passed'. And never will.

This is a horrifying story and I can't bear to watch the video. My heart goes out to the poor victims of this attack and their families. I hope they're being supported.

I think a psychologist would say that at the root of the rage and anger response is fear.

My ex was bullied as a boy and is convinced it was because the other kids somehow 'knew' even before they did (I'm not sure about that bit - from being bullied myself, I just think some kids can be cruel sometimes due to a range of issues they're trying to deal with).

At its root perhaps it is a fear that they don't 'pass' despite what their oh-so-kind friends say on Facebook, and they will be found out...when your innermost identity is at odds with biological reality, it must be difficult.

Ex is now in the US and terrified that 'people might kill them' because of being a transsexual when they go in the women's toilets (where they of course deserve to be, with their newly minted feminine pronouns ). Maybe with the US gun culture that's not so daft a fear, I don't know. But fear certainly doesn't excuse violence in response.