You couldn't make this up - Julie Bindle no platformed at @truth2powercafe

Side issue to this thread, but in that I Am A Woman' twaddle, the line 'the future is not female' really stood out. That's what this is. I am so angry.

How were those views not career ending? Strange that those two blokes didn't mind sharing a platform with someone who advocates joyful sex between adults and 9 year olds.

Supporter, I would think. Appalling error of judgement even in the 70s but to ignore all the evidence that had emerged by the late 90s is astounding to me. I'm younger than Tatchell, but not by much, and there was plenty of discussion in the media and I assume a lot of academic literature on this. It was something that started to get a lot of attention from the mid to late 80s, if I remember correctly.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Tatchell part of PIE or at least supporting them?

Forgot article link! www.theguardian.com/world/2001/mar/03/gayrights.weekend7

Bloody hell. When I looked at that, I assumed it was from the 70s when the moral compass was wildly swinging all over the place. But no, it was apparently June 26th, 1997, in The Guardian (who would have guessed that!). How was that letter not career-ending?

First Google hit when I was searching, article in the Mail by Peter Hitchens. Third, this article by guess who, Julie Bindel, a woman whose moral compass has never wavered, I'm guessing. Out comes my trusty cartoon again. I believe it comes from gender critical Reddit but I don't know whose it is originally.

Now I need Atkinson to come out as GC for this reason alone.

Rowan atkinson was one of the leading voices against Blair’s proposed blasphemy laws. He already has form for fighting against the codification of belief.

Just read that letter I cross posted with. If those are Tatchell's views he's a git.

his active disregard for the rights of women is shocking.

sexist, anti-progressive, pro-TRA rampagingly misogynistic points

I think there is a danger in demonising Tatchell. I agree with everything said about the effect of his proposals, but I don't agree about his motivation.

Lots of people who should know better have bought the self ID nonsense- if it were obviously misogynist that would not be so. What Tatchell has not done is try to silence opposition. If everyone on the 'other side' had conducted the debate in the way he has then I think we'd already have won the argument.

TL:DR. Tatchell is wrong, but people like de Sousa and Patel are actually bad.

The Kate Bush song they have appropriated is about childbirth. They are completely shameless.

I'm really hoping his views have changed since then.

Someone has shared a letter Peter Tatchell wrote which has knocked me sick.

mobile.twitter.com/SophiaSmith222/status/1055142438724091904

April Preston's twitter biography states she is director of the LibDem 'Radical Asociation', confirmed:
radicalassociation.org/our-team

On a recent thread a member of this 'radical' group joined to attack Natalie Bird as well as MN posters concerned about how she had been treated.
It was quite an extraordinary exchange & worth reading:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3399104-Times-Lib-Dem-trans-activists-hounded-abuse-victim-Natalie-Bird-Article-refers-to-Zoe-OConnell-Sarah-Brown?pg=7

I admire what Peter Tatchell has achieved for gay rights and his personal sacrifice to do so but his active disregard for the rights of women is shocking.
He actually hides behind GIRES to make his sexist, anti-progressive, pro-TRA rampagingly misogynistic points for him. I was so disappointed to find this out about him. And if he’s not even speaking up now to defend himself on these issues when challenged that is even more depressing. What does he actually stand for? Why can’t he say what he thinks? What is he scared of?

www.petertatchellfoundation.org/tag/gires-uk/

Angry, I think they just didn't know what one was in the first place. They googled everything and didn't check the source was reputable.

Did they already burn all the dictionaries in Woketopia? It would explain a lot.

Its also extremely libelous

Redtoothbrush OMG that is a scary list.

And no. That is NOT what liberalism is.

Its about as good as Ash's definition of Communism.

Good on Trevor Philips, good on Index on Censorship.
Good on Julie Bindel (as fucking always). That woman is solid gold and I love her. She actually cares about women, she always puts them first and she couldn’t give a fuck what that makes her look like.
Julie Bindel is a world apart from the rest of these nonentity self-appointed virtue wankers, they would have been lucky to have someone of her calibre as a speaker.

So I wake up this morning and log on twitter. First thing i see

Two Flames @msjenniferjames
Today in TRA world:
1. Herts police said a woman paedophile had a penis
2. An Irish MP said men cd get pregnant
3. A Leicester woman showed a knifeman her vagina to prove she was female.
4. Julie Bindel threatened to shoot a LibDem TRA with a gun.

And it's only Wednesday. 🤠
twitter.com/aprilpreston_/status/1055084029039525888

I was like WTF?

It was in response to this tweet:

Julie Bindel @bindelj
So, I have been no-platformed from an event celebrating 'freedom of speech' and 'speaking truth to power' after trans activists contacted the organiser & said my writing incites 'violence', and is 'hate speech'. Watch this space for full details: @RoundhouseLDN @truth2powercafe

Everyone was asking for evidence of this wrong doing.

Its like living in Trumpworld.

Sorry - pull out, not pull too.

I'm still watching Peter Tatchell on Twitter - lots of people asking him if he's going to pull too in protest but the champion of free speech is keeping strangely silent.

Yeah, Freespeecher it was the same in Germany with Cologne. Self ID-ing liberal feminists who for years had (rightly) pointed out what needs to be changed in our culture and social norms for men to learn not to harrass and catcall and ‚flirt‘ without invitarion, in short to change their socialization for the better. suddenly went on the attack when I pointed out that socialization in a patriarchal Culture will also be a factor. They would hear none of it and accused me of just exploiting this and all men are the same irrespective of socialization. (I am on the Left and have cared for women‘s rights and protections all my life ffs).
I always thought tribalism is a conservative and right wing thing and the left was more rational. Wow, was I wrong!

Sarkar not Sarkat! But the point still stands, dammit!