What is ‘cis privilege’?

Karen White is a rapist. 99% of all rapes are committed by males.

FloralBunting thanks! Def not upset!

You seem to have very little understanding of the tribulations of trans people.
I think you may have a slightly outdated idea about who qualifies as a transwoman these days.

Privilege has a number of different meanings. Whilst I agree that on a personal level, child bearing feels like a privilege, particularly in comparison to a woman who is infertile and heartbroken, that is not the definition of the term being used here.

My understanding of 'cis-privilege' includes exactly this definition. The privilege to have the anatomy to grow a child, something many trans women yearn for.

pennydrew, honestly, don't worry about it. I have engaged with that poster before now, and personally don't actually believe a word they say, and consider the flailing around a very poor disguise for a simple lack of comprehension and a need to be the creator of much drama.

I have no interest in supplying them with what they need for their gratification, so I have made my boundary very clear to avoid any confusion. Please don't get yourself get up on my account. And certainly don't get upset by them.

I have to say that even though I have been in the joyous position of being comfortable being a woman, this does not make me privileged. We all have shit to deal with. Most of us know that if we shout about it, we’ll be told to shut up. Why are these TRAs treated differently?

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You then blamed women for the violent behaviour I highlighted and have now swiftly moved on from the trans rapist, to... women can be violent too. Just amazing the lengths people like you will go to throw women under the bus.

No Karen White is a violent criminal. There are violent women too- like Rose West. We don’t judge all women as being like Rose West.

My questions were in response to you blabbing on about how mean the feminists were being to trans people and how brave they were being

Feminist4

You aren’t debating. You pretty much keep saying the same thing and you have a poor grasp of the specific terms we are using, which makes conversation with you frustrating and time consuming. Your rape apologist comment might just have been the final straw though. Gross.

No Karen White is a violent criminal. There are violent women too- like Rose West. We don’t judge all women as being like Rose West.

Yes Floralbunting, I’m not surprised you are blocking me. Women with your anti GRA views want to debate this, but only when they hear their own point of view. It’s very hippocritical to want debate and then block.

Feminist 4

I’m going to ask this again, specifically

What about Karen White, the transwoman who raped an autistic teen and then sexually assaulted women in prison, is he brave?

Seems appropriate

The BBC routinely showcase biological males, as in transwomen alongside men, to discuss what is best for women's rights and even what language women should use to describe themselves without women being represented.

It is a rare occurrence that the BBC have actual women on to talk about women's rights without a transwoman shouting over her.

Transwomen are in the eyes on the BBC the beholders of all knowledge of womanhood.

The LP recently had three male (transgender) "women's officers" which is vastly over representative of the general population. Amnesty may I remind you had Shon "enjoy ur erasure" Faye recently presenting their woman of the year award. No one buys the "most opressed" narrative. No one at all. Because it's a lie. TW are time over time usurping women.

Feminist4

Grasping at straws? 🤦🏽‍♀️ From the ‘feminist’ who just excused Male violence and RAPE, with ‘ they’re angry and desperate’. What a disgusting thing to do.

A trans woman is marginalised and victimised by society more than most women are.
I struggle with that statement when I think of a middle-aged autogynephile who decides to go the whole hog and starts presenting as a woman 24/7. He carries on in his well-paid job, the wife doesn't leave him, and everyone says how brave he is.

Feminist4, just to be kind and save you expending any further energy trying to get me to respond to you, I shall let you know that I am using an inner 'block user' mechanism and ignoring everything you post. Go well, but don't try and engage me again. Thanks everso.

They are angry and desperate

In other words, ‘ she made me do it! ‘

How pathetic

‘Structural advantage’ that really seems to be grasping at straws.

Jezebelz, whilst I appreciate the elasticity of the English language in many ways, it's not going to help to use every definition of of a word interchangeably if we're going to communicate with each other.

Privilege has a number of different meanings. Whilst I agree that on a personal level, child bearing feels like a privilege, particularly in comparison to a woman who is infertile and heartbroken, that is not the definition of the term being used here.

Perhaps it would help you if you thought of it as 'Structural advantage'?

They are angry and desperate. Most trans women aren’t violent. Women can be violent too

Jezebelz

So the fertility struggles of a female are being compared to transwomen who wish they could give birth? Wow.

Feminist4

Are you talking about the meeting where trans people wore balaclavas and tried to stop women entering a meeting?

Feminist4

Did you see the transwoman successfully prosecuted for punching a 60 year old feminist outside a women’s meeting? Do you think that transwoman was brave? What about the TRA’s that issued a bomb threat to another women’s meeting? What about Karen White, the transwoman who raped an autistic teen and then sexually assaulted women in prison, is he brave?