What is ‘cis privilege’?

I think the very definition of privilege is having stuff (material or otherwise) you take for granted but someone else desperately wants.

Were African Americans privileged over Rachel Dolezal? Are disabled people privileged over transabled ones?

And what about incels? Do you think they're entitled to sex and should be allowed to own a wife?

I don't think you understand privilege or structural inequality.

If a man is fetishising pregnancy and female biology, something has gone wrong. It's not a normal reaction to a wish list

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. That is heartbreaking. Genuinely. So please don't take this next bit amiss :

It’s not better or worse than being born a man who can never experience pregnancy

Yes. It is.

Men with gender dysphoria do not fetishise female pregnancy. Autogynephiles do.

If a man is fetishising pregnancy and female biology, something has gone wrong. It's not a normal reaction to a wish list.

And being jealous of the female body is all very well, but it’s not something we can give up. It is not something taken unfairly, or something that we have been allowed but transwomen are denied by society.

As an example, Men have slowly been giving up priveldge by letting women vote, letting women get mortgages, insisting on equal pay. Men in my organisation have been re writing job adverts to make the language less bombastically Male.

What exactly do you want us to do? Hum share our bodies within you?

No human has pretty wings. The toddler is upset, not because the fairies have privilege over them, but because they are not engaging with reality. The appropriate response would not be for me to cossett their notion that it was 'unjust' for fairies to have wings while they didn't, it would be to dry their tears, and show them that while we don't always get what we want, there are lots of other good things in the world we can have. Because that's true.

I would not be telling that toddler they were right to be upset because of the heartless fairies and their privilege, and that I would join them in a struggle for their rights to have wings, or at least for the fairies to feel really bad that they had wings and humans didn't.

I mean, I get the overarching 'reality is transphobic' narrative is powerful, but dear lord...

Not having people not wanting to date you/marry you because you have the wrong sexual organs?

Male privilege constitutes being born in the first place. Being considered the default, not lesser than. Owning most of the world's money, property and political influence.

It's not flipped over to women suddenly because some strange man is fantasising about having a womb.

Stop it.

Datun I know many trans woman have had children (as men) before their transition but I am sure you are aware that taking female hormones makes one infertile. Pretty quickly I believe.

And?

Envy is wanting something that isn’t yours, you don’t deserve and have no right to

Something the very worst straight, white males say to women.

How fortunate then that we have a mandatory state education system for every child in this country.

And gone on, does that mean no barren women is not cis priveldged?

Yes. It’s an easy argument. They can’t be women as they haven’t got a cervix. Who cares. I wouldn’t know I had one if someone hadn’t told me.

Nope. Envy is wanting something that isn’t yours, you don’t deserve and have no right to

And here we go again. The biological argument.

Biology pretty much IS the argument.

Envy is for the unprivileged.

No, that’s not priveldge its envy

I think the very definition of privilege is having stuff (material or otherwise) you take for granted but someone else desperately wants.

I'd say that the very definition of male privilege is for a man to declare himself to be a woman and have it believed...

Datun I know many trans woman have had children (as men) before their transition but I am sure you are aware that taking female hormones makes one infertile. Pretty quickly I believe.

I think gentle is good. And if you had the pretty wings the toddler so desperately wanted then I am sure you would understand how privileged that made you in their eyes.

That would mean that everyone in the world is privileged over someone else. By dint of the fact they have, a better car, house, dress, ring, boyfriend, set of teeth!

I see cis privilege as being oblivious to the benefits of your body matching your gender identity, the privilege of your body being able to do the things you want it to (have children, breastfeed).

Oh come ON.

I'm infertile. Does that mean my 'cis privilege' is less than yours? But I don't want children, so being infertile wasn't an issue for me. However my body doesn't do what I want to it to do, which is have the flexibility of an Olympic gymnast. Presumably I should turn up to the Tokyo 2020 games waving a banner at Team GB telling them they have 'cis privilege' because they can do double somersaults and I can't.

You are also missing the point that gender identity is fuck-all to do with biological sex. Gender is a stereotypical load of societal bollocks. Life is unfair, people are different. Some have won the genetic lottery and are born with attractive bodies and facial features. Others are super intelligent, or driven, or empathetic. The argument of 'cis privilege' is a fashionable and woke way of saying "I'm jealous because life has given you something that I want".

And here we go again. The biological argument.

I usually feel very gentle towards children who are upset because they cannot cope with physical reality.

I think gentle is good. And if you had the pretty wings the toddler so desperately wanted then I am sure you would understand how privileged that made you in their eyes.