What is ‘cis privilege’?

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I'm sitting here smh because this has been so very revealing - a discussion about male bodied people telling women their suffering makes them privileged has actually dissolved into a weird entitled whine about why certain men can't get access to sex.

Good grief.

Okay, I'm actually going to do some research on this as a single divorced woman in my 50s.

I do know already that my partners if I say heterosexual is already limited, though I have a friend who is on dating sites and she keeps getting messages from 'cross dressers', whom she now ignores. She is in her 40s and a divorced woman.

I do wonder what the response would be if I put down bi sexual.

*Bonions
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Is that real?????

Posted too soon

...when considering lesbians or bisexuals

There's also the fact that even highly privileged rich, pretty people frequently have shit love lives.

Let's imagine a small town of 1000 single adults (500 male and 500 female)

Age range?

Presumably those that are heterosexual and get together will have a 50/50 chance of staying together for 5 years, as 10 years is now considered a long partnership.

Ergo, your crap analogy doesn't work from the oft Jezebelz

Or trans people could be centred when considering lesbian

Stop the planet I want to get off...

Are we really now saying that a "cis-privalage" is being able to have a shag on a Friday night if we want one.

Is that really where we are? Trans women are disadvantaged and it's a privilege to have a shag.

Look I'm going to be blunt. There are plenty of people in this world that struggle to get their leg over, from those with physical disabilities, those who have been mutilated by FGM and the down right fugly pedestrians of the planet. But at no bloody point is it ever a lack of privilege.

Nobody has the right to sex/ sexual partners/ romance and debauchery. 🤦

You're right, FloralBunting. Jezebelz seems unable or unwilling to accept the definition of privilege when we're talking about class analysis.

I always think comparing Barack Obama to a white homeless man illustrates the principle well for people who haven't encountered the concept before. But in this case it seems to have been entirely misunderstood.

So it’s about sex , ie biology, after all? Do some of you have “pretty” priveldge because you are born pretty? And perhaps some have good hair priveldge? Althetic body priveledge? And the female specific Not too brainy priveldge?

Let's say I agree with the ideas about sexual privilege, how would we make things more equal in society wrt sexual partners?

Maybe those with privilege could make themselves available in an idk, first come first served or some kind of rotation basis to get fucked by the poor oppressed trans & pans cause that sounds very much like the arguments put forward by MRAs & Incels and I pretty much feel like I'm being fucked every which way by TRAs already when it come to my rights as a female...

It's no surprise that a lot of transactivists are incels.

It's emotional blackmail telling you to be nice to others.

When we've arrived at sexual entitlement, I think we all know where we stand.

If you are a man who is attracted to women, but demand that any woman who sleeps with you calls herself a lesbian, your dating pool is going to shrink to next to nothing.

But that is not an account of you being trans...

What I'm getting from this thread now is that Jezebelz has decided that discussing the way 'cis privilege' has been used is too hard, so has decided to have a discussion about all the ways in which trans people may feel bad, without reference to why they might feel that way, and use these random things to show that women have a better time of it in general, and should feel bad.

Yes, the large increase in recent years among men who say they identify as women has been mostly made up of heterosexual men.

Sexual orientation is pretty fixed regardless of transition, although you do get het men who want to have sex with men while they present en femme as part of
their AGP.

It's estimated that two thirds of transwomen are attracted to women. And, sadly for lesbians, a lot of these plonkers identify as lesbians. It's a real problem for lesbian groups, especially among the young. Ace video from Magdalen Berns here:

There was a thread on Reddit a couple of years ago from a young lesbian who had been violently assaulted by a transwoman who had been part of her friendship group. She needed medical treatment and she went to the police. She was the person ostracized by her friends who all said the transwoman was the vulnerable one and the victim. Poor kid was distraught. It's straight up madness and gaslighting.

Jezebelz

Stop it. You just trolling now. No one has the right to a sexual partner.

No one.

People who are looking for someone to share walks on the beach are going to have lots of people to choose from.

People who are looking for someone to share their love and passion of the basket weaving methods from the Middle Ages will have fewer people to choose from.

Jezebelz

You said being able to find a normal, kind and respectful life partner with ease seems like a pretty big privilege to me over someone who can't.

The notion that all women can 'find a normal (sic - wtf do you mean by that?), kind and respectful life partner with ease...' is quite a staggering over-generalisation borne of no relevant data - don't you think?

I disagree.

Let's imagine a small town of 1000 single adults (500 male and 500 female)

The straight people are likely to have about 450 straight partners to choose from.

The gay people have about 40 potential gay partners to choose from.

And the trans people will have about 10 other people (trans or pansexuals) to choose from.

Of course the straight people take it for granted there are plenty of people local to them willing to have a date and don't consider it a privilege.

Tell that to the two women who are killed by their male partners.

...every single week.

*a week

I dunno Vicky, being able to find a normal, kind and respectful life partner with ease seems like a pretty big privilege to me over someone who can't.

It's childish, uninformed nonsense.

Tell that to the two women who are killed by their male partners.