What is ‘cis privilege’?

Langcleg what safeguarding guidance are you talking about?

All this creepy old man in women’s clothing is rubbish

The adult baby, Aimee Challenor, is 21. Jess Bradley, the flasher, is older but not much. She's the NUS LGBT officer, currently suspended for obvious reasons.

Move on. Give better arguments.

Nope. I don't need to. What I say is logical and checkable. You can "la la la" with your fingers in your ears and flail all you like. Why should I care? Convincing someone whose arguments are as flimsy as yours is not a great priority of mine.

Or the one about the attitude to sexual assault and rape survivors and how they need to be 'reeducated'.

We could do the one about children being harmed by unethical doctors after they have been groomed online by older people who have piss poor understand of safeguarding frameworks.

What about the one where lobby group guidance in schools removes safeguarding from the very children they purport to represent?

All this creepy old man in women’s clothing is rubbish. Move on. Give better arguments

We could do the one about children being harmed by unethical doctors after they have been groomed online by older people who have piss poor understand of safeguarding frameworks.

All this creepy old man in women’s clothing is rubbish. Move on. Give better arguments

...just as male privilege doesn't exist for men, white privilege doesn't exist for white people...

I thought you'd decided your examples were nonsense.

So why not give us some examples of c-s privilege that might work this time?

...just as male privilege doesn't exist for men, white privilege doesn't exist for white people...

I refuse to rtft....it's nothing ...it doesn't exist ,well apart from in the heads of twisted individuals.

Rubbish

That's your "argument", is it? Do explain how the factual cases listed by Prawn are, in fact, "rubbish".

Rubbish

It's the dissonance of the complaint that being trans limits the dating pool so severely that it constitutes actual oppression by the people who won't sleep with the trans person, and yet pushes mad surgeries and experimental medical treatments on children who will then never achieve any meaningful sexual or mental maturity.

It's immensely sinister and it looks worse and worse the more we see of it. So many leading lights of the transactivist movement have been revealed as fetishists or really extreme misogynists that I can't help but have an increasingly high index of suspicion.

We've got furries, flashers, adult babies, advocates of extreme violent porn, age play, people who hold political positions telling strangers to "suck my big lady cock" or "suck my pickled formaldehyde balls".

And then there's the political agent who raped and tortured a 10 year old girl while dressed and identifying as a 6 year old called Lucy... The unspeakable Stephonknee Wolsht was a named leading light of her local trans rights group, FFS. Stephonknee identifies and dresses as a 6 year old girl. Her new kink family let her play with their grandchildren.

There is at least one British activist with links to PIE. I'm old enough to remember the Paedophile Information Exchange. A lot of left wing politicians got fooled by that shit show first time around and looks like there's a bit of this tangled up in the most disturbing hinterlands of this movement. Already we're seeing arguments about the age of consent and whether consent is always strictly necessary.

I remember someone on Reddit who claimed to be a transwoman was inviting kids who lived near her over so she could give them hormone shots. Nothing could possibly go wrong, could it? But that's exactly where telling kids to ditch their restricting parents and find a new "glitter family" is certain to lead for some of them. It's totally predictable sadly.

Yes, we know there are plenty of lovely trans people but an extremely high proportion of the most prominent and vocal are very creepy indeed.

It's the dissonance of the complaint that being trans limits the dating pool so severely that it constitutes actual oppression by the people who won't sleep with the trans person, and yet pushes mad surgeries and experimental medical treatments on children who will then never achieve any meaningful sexual or mental maturity.

It is confusing on one basic level, but utterly heinously evil the more one considers it.

I have only known the term cis privilege be used in relation to being accepted by society while trans people are not.

Some of us, however, have seen it used about: the 'ability' to menstruate, experience severe period pains, bear children, have abortions, the possession of breasts, a uterus, ovaries, a cervix, a vagina...

That's why we're a tad snippy about it.

FWIW I have miscarried and if anyone starting spouting to me about cis privilege at that time then no I would not be happy.

So yes it depends on context and no it should never be used to dismiss or belittle the female experience. I haven't seen it used in this way, but I can't imagine a single trans person I know, or any decent person, thinking this would be acceptable.

I have only known the term cis privilege be used in relation to being accepted by society while trans people are not.

They are ranting transphobes who can't be argued with.

On the contrary, we're still waiting for someone to actually make a proper "argument" on this topic.

All I know is I'm glad I wasn't born transgender and I don't have to deal with all the shit that comes with it.

When I think of all the crap trans people in Africa have to face, its shocking. The scale of it is incalculable. At least they have gender neutral toilets there though.

If you make a decision that will limit your dating pool, don't complain when your dating pool is limited.

My decision to shag only non-sexist men severely limited my dating pool. Jus' sayin'.

Jezabel. If you argue with them you just get abuse. They are ranting transphobes who can't be argued with. They don't like it.

Jezabel. Just play the victim. It's easier than having an argument. We don't like being exposed to critical thought.

Jezabel. If you argue with them you just get abuse. They are ranting transphobes who can't be argued with. They don't like it.

All I know is I'm glad I wasn't born transgender and I don't have to deal with all the shit that comes with it.

There are millions - millions upon millions of women whose lives are more shit than your average transwoman could ever imagine. FGM, rape, continuing sexual abuse, slavery, you fucking name it, women get it in bucketsful.

So DFOD with your 'it's really hard for these poor trans people because they can't get a shag', will you?

Maybe I am confusing luck with privilege.

Maybe, because that is on an individual basis, too.

And maybe you haven't been exposed to many people telling you you are privileged for having an abortion, for instance.

Or seeing people who talk about cis privilege telling a women that a miscarriage it's exactly like evacuating any other kind of waste, so didn't require privacy.

When men who claim they are women and want access to women's spaces start talking about the privilege of those women in those spaces, it should be a red light.

None of this means that feminists don't understand that gender dysphoria is a real and unpleasant condition.

It's also incredibly rare.

Jezebelz, if you are in good faith, I'd say, well done for coming to the conclusion we've all been trying to explain to you.

All I know is I'm glad I wasn't born transgender and I don't have to deal with all the shit that comes with it.

Maybe I am confusing luck with privilege.

a weird entitled whine about why certain men can't get access to sex.

According to Blanchard, that is at the root of transgenderism. Including HSTS.