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idontknowwhattosay · 23/10/2018 21:40

Ok, now im going to appear stupid but i promise im not as stupid as this sounds.
Just looking on instagram and a persons pic came uo, i looked at the caption
My dick doesnt make me any less feminine. i am biologically a woman.

Erm how?
Sex, the anatomy you are born with, male or female yes?
Gender, how you feel/ represent yourself , potentially masculine or feminine.

So im lost.
How can you say you have a dick and are biologically female?

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ALittleBitofVitriol · 24/10/2018 08:30

Gncq
Those people are cis-women. Not women. Definitely inferior to women.

Exhibit A

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/10/2018 08:18

Ah but not all men had the vote by 1918, Transdimensional, because trans men didn't.

Datun · 24/10/2018 00:11

So a woman with no penis is a cis woman.
A man who says hes a woman but keeps his penis is now a real woman

Correct. You might also be interested to know that two men giving each other blow jobs are having lesbian sex, if they identify as women.

transdimensional · 23/10/2018 22:44

One of the weirdest things I heard was that Vogue marked the centenary of middle-class women getting the vote with a cover devoted to trans women. I mean, surely they must be aware that trans women got the vote before all other women did? Middle-class and some working-class men who wanted to be women were enfranchised in the 19th century along with all other men, and the remaining working-class men who wanted to be women got the vote in 1918 along with the remaining working-class men (whereas working-class natal women, and middle-class natal women under 30, got the vote in 1928).

Sarahjconnor · 23/10/2018 22:41

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 23/10/2018 22:37

Gin here you go OP

PerverseConverse · 23/10/2018 22:36

Clit on a stick? What the fucking chuff. I've learnt something new today. I like learning new things but this makes me want to remain in the dark.

FuriousOctopus · 23/10/2018 22:31

Oh this so recently happened to me, it's not easy to understand because it isn't true. I've gone down the wormhole and am now soon to be "PeakTrans"

Trousered · 23/10/2018 22:26

The Woman and Equalities Shadow Minister - Dawn Butler has recommended we need hypnotism, immersion therapy or talking therapy to overcome our phobia of lady dick.

TalkingintheDark · 23/10/2018 22:19

I heard about that tweet at the time, @sarahjconnor but I didn’t see the full text - holy moly!

Spasm0dic · 23/10/2018 22:16

Oh sorry. In that case, I’d like a nice pint of beer instead of drugs.

Sarahjconnor · 23/10/2018 22:13

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Racecardriver · 23/10/2018 22:12

But being biologically female isn’t the same as being feminine? The whole thing is just silly.

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ILoveDolly · 23/10/2018 22:08

That makes my head explode, because I am happy that TWAW in the sense that they live and are accepted as women. But biologically..... Its scientific isnt it? If your genome sequencing shows you to have a male form genitalia and sperm producing capacity then biologically you are male. Even if you don't want to own it.

Spasm0dic · 23/10/2018 22:05

Welcome to lunacy. Soon we will all be sent to asylums and drugged for disagreeing.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/10/2018 22:03

It's not that cis women aren't women, it's that we're more privileged than trans women due to our being lucky enough to be born with a female body, and therefore our needs should come secondary to those of transwomen. Feminism must therefore centre transwomen: not just include, but centre.

I am not exaggerating. This literally is transactivist philosophy. And yes, it is utterly shitty for women.

idontknowwhattosay · 23/10/2018 21:59

Right.
So a woman with no penis is a cis woman.
A man who says hes a woman but keeps his penis is now a real woman

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Gncq · 23/10/2018 21:56

a female dick? So what re women without dicks? Does that make them less of a woman?
Those people are cis-women. Not women. Definitely inferior to women.

nauticant · 23/10/2018 21:56

People actually do know the truth but they feel they mustn't speak it. Or they embrace telling the non-truth because they have something to gain.

There are many places on the Internet where telling the truth is heresy and will get you a virtual kicking. Fortunately, MN has provided a space in which speaking the truth is not forbidden. MN isn't perfect but I'll always be grateful for this.

TalkingintheDark · 23/10/2018 21:55

Welcome to the wonderful world of transactivism.
Transactivist ideology currently dictates that if a person has what they claim to be an “innate sense” of “being a woman”, then they are a woman, regardless of what biological sex they are.

If they are a woman, then everything about them is female. Dick included.

Thus the being formerly known as a heterosexual male can now be miraculously transformed into a lesbian. And said person’s genitatlia are miraculously female, and the business of nobody except said person, not even the business of potential sexual partners.

“Like, why are you so obsessed with genitals, what are you, a vagina fetishist or something, it’s so creepy” etc etc.

You are a vile transphobic bigot if you even think about pointing out the obvious batshittery of this ideology, a bigot on a par with out and out racists and Nazis, who deserves to be punched, raped and to Die In A Fire(TM) and don’t even think of saying that people who make threats like that sound absolutely stereotypically male, because that kind of speech is now stereotypically female if it comes from someone with a female penis plus you are a vile transphobic bigot etc etc.

In other words, words have altogether lost their meanings and are now gobbledegook that mean whatever the person using them wants them to mean at any given moment. And this is Progress.

Gncq · 23/10/2018 21:52

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idontknowwhattosay · 23/10/2018 21:49

Clit on a stick???! What the merry hell is that

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idontknowwhattosay · 23/10/2018 21:49

a female dick? So what re women without dicks? Does that make them less of a woman?

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