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Lily M standing as women's officer again

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ScarletBegonias · 23/10/2018 11:17

Gather LM is saying that they had to give up the previous post because they left the area (to go to Goldsmiths) but they're now standing for the women's officer post in Lewisham Deptford CLP. Voting is on Sunday, apparently.

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nottakingthisanymore · 29/10/2018 06:44

Oh I see it’s sibling. That makes more ‘sense’.

nottakingthisanymore · 29/10/2018 06:43

How can one be a non binary sister? I thought non binary was niether male or female. I genuinely don’t get all these new identities.

adulthumanandtired · 29/10/2018 06:24

I’m genuinely gobsmacked having read some of the links on this thread. If this is the calibre of people that are active in Labour and want to attain leadership roles rue Labour party really is doomed.
There also appears to be a message that trans identifying males are somehow more deserving of positions reserved for women than women are. Very odd indeed. I won’t be voting Labour.

DeRigueurMortis · 29/10/2018 01:59

I couldn't get past "Sisters" before I got a bit of sick in my throat.

As an aside.....

I see Sarah is trying to make the most of their 5 mins of fame.

twitter.com/sarahxdorman/status/1056605193335382017?s=21

Also noted is Sarah is very keen on supporting sex workers, presumably because that's inclusive to women prisoners of the sex trade?

Lily M standing as women's officer again
LuggsaysNotaWomen · 29/10/2018 01:26

It’s noticable that the first half of that durge is centered solely around Madigan and the second half is just listing the problems that women face (that are frigging self evident to a chimp), however, all of ta sudden the focus shifts onto solutions its all about “we” and “the party” and “everybody” etc. Not so fucking Madigan centered once it is about actually doing something then? Interesting.

Just can’t understand how Lm lost! It’s a mystery.

cockBlocker · 28/10/2018 23:30

@Couragetocourage - No, of course not.

FloralBunting · 28/10/2018 23:13

My word. My inner textual critic is itching to take that section by section, but I shall restrain myself. It's so... indicative of how very central to everything Madigan is.Grin

DeRigueurMortis · 28/10/2018 23:05

Thanks for the explanation.

dillydallyXX · 28/10/2018 23:05

@floralbunting

Rest your eyes! Here's what LM wanted to say. Note the number of "I"s and "me"s. Such a sense of entitlement. Well done, Gill! I think LM really, really wanted this position and I'm not sure LM will handle this rejection at all well. Perhaps LM will embark on a campaign to usurp Gill. Here's LM's opus:

Sisters.

When I announced I was standing to be Chair of this forum - and Women's Officer of our CLP - I knew what was going to happen.

I knew that I would be confronted with a week of constant attacks, where I would be called the wrong gender, the wrong name, and face smears in the right-wing press.

I knew I would be dismissed, treated like an overly-ambitious upstart or someone who should 'get back in their box.'

I knew that despite being a woman, living every day of my life as a woman and being mocked and disparaged by some of the most vile misogynistic people for it, I would be accused by those who call themselves 'comrades', of undermining womanhood itself.

I don't say that because I want you to pity me, and I don't say it because I think I 'deserve' to be Women's Officer by virtue of who I am.

No. The reason I'm standing in front of your today, through all of that, is because this is what kind of party we want to be.

In my previous CLP, I fought against the closure of Sure Start centres and women's refuges. I knew it was by opposing cuts and Tory austerity that we could show who we are, and on who side we're on.

I'll do the same in Lewisham Deptford - standing up for the most oppressed and marginalised women in our communities.

By electing me, you'll be sending a message that those women are front and centre in what we do, and who we fight for.

I want to see women-only, fully accessible campaigning and training sessions so that new, less experienced members feel comfortable and welcome in our movement, standing for positions at every level. It's only a breadth of ages, backgrounds and experiences that's going to grow our movement.

I'll support bringing in those different experiences, those looking to learn and listen to other women, politicised by their own experience, as the only way Lewisham Deptford can become truly representative and a force for change in our communities.

I also want to see an end to sexual violence.

Two women are murdered each week as a result of the misogynistic abuse happening in the homes of our neighbours and our colleagues.

It won't be defeated unless we first eradicate it from our own circles and that is why it is shameful that sexual assault and harassment still blight the Labour Party itself.

We need consent and bystander intervention workshops for all of our local branches, so that by tackling sexual violence at its source, amongst those who perpetrate it, women and survivors feel truly welcome in our movement.

There are many women who aren't only unable to participate in our meetings and campaign days but in every part of life, from school to work to the elderly and unemployed.

Period poverty is real, its dehumanising and it's something that shouldn't exist in 2018. I've already reached out to Red Box and PFP Deptford, who work to provide free sanitary products in schools.

Whether elected or not, I'd like to see the Women's Forum commit to supporting these local organisations as well as regular collections at our brand and CLP meetings.

It's just one other way that women are bearing the brunt of austerity. I've been enthused by the work of local trade unionists, many of whom share our politics but they can't make our meetings because they're in precarious, shift work.

Between shifts they've been working to unionise bar and hospitality workers, as well as cleaners and carers - many of these workers are not only women but women from black and ethnic minority backgrounds.

It's these women that we should be making every effort to welcome into our Party, working class women for who Labour should be their natural home.

whitershadeofpale · 28/10/2018 22:54

That’s exactly right @Soren and based on what I’ve seen online (I wasn’t at the branch meeting), today’s delegate vote was a second bite of the apple for Lily after not having followed correct procedures to be eligable at the branch vote.

Rather than deny the chance to stand, there was an extension given for the vote until today to ensure the slate was correct and therefore the delegate vote went ahead today. Lily and momentum thought Lily was a shoe-in and were campaigning for the next step as Officer- however Lily didn’t get far enough to stand, hence why she only delivered the speech about being a delegate (poorly imo).

Voice0fReason · 28/10/2018 22:34

I am so glad that Gill won. She was by far the superior candidate.

sorenipples · 28/10/2018 22:14

Wasn't being a delegate a prerequisite for being women's officer? If I'm following, did Gill not stand as a delegate in the agm as she was already a delegate voted in my Brockley branch (in a rebellion against momentum who provided a slate who weren't all resident )?

FloralBunting · 28/10/2018 22:09

I can just about make out some of the closing remarks of that speech, but they are choice indeed. The tunnel vision is strong in this one.

DeRigueurMortis · 28/10/2018 22:08

Sorry I'm obviously missing a part of the process here.

I'd be grateful if someone could explain the relevance of the delegate vote vs the officer vote.

TIA

whitershadeofpale · 28/10/2018 22:05

There was an ammendment to the agenda so delegates were voted for before the officer. Lily then decided not to run for officer because they lost the delegate vote. Not sure how they could give a speech when she’d decided not to run 🤷‍♀️

DeRigueurMortis · 28/10/2018 22:03

Well that doesn't tally with the descriptions of the meeting here....

sorenipples · 28/10/2018 21:42

This tweet was briefly up. So the chair changed the agenda so those not standing for woman's officer couldn't read speeches as if they were?

Lily M standing as women's officer again
DeRigueurMortis · 28/10/2018 21:35

So the crap underexperienced candidate lost

RTB - I think that sums it up very neatly 👌

littlbrowndog · 28/10/2018 21:15

Best news
Authentic woman won

RedToothBrush · 28/10/2018 21:11

So the crap underexperienced candidate lost

The End

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LizzieSiddal · 28/10/2018 21:00

So if LM had got this job, they would have had 3 political offices?
I don’t understand how one person can go for so many different positions. Isn’t it rather arrogant to assume you could do all those roles effectively?

FekkoThePenguin · 28/10/2018 19:19

I do hope the women students at goldcis college do go to lil with all their womanly issues - every-single-bloody-one. Often. Frequently. See what gets done and see how often the answer is 'but it's much worse of trans women (Who Are Women by the way). Check your cis privilege girlfriend!'

Couragetocourage · 28/10/2018 19:16

This whole discussion has made me think that even I, as a biological woman, wouldn't feel I could be the best representative as a woman's officer as I don't have children

Children don't make a woman more of a woman.

yetanotherusernameAgain · 28/10/2018 19:15

I see that Lily's position as 'Brockley Labour LGBT officer' has been removed from the biography part of her Twitter page and replaced with 'Gold[smiths] Labour women's officer'. I wonder why? Lack of space to include everything perhaps, but I'm surprised she chose to omit a recent political appointment rather than one of her other connections.

FekkoThePenguin · 28/10/2018 19:14

I'm happy but still not impressed. 18 numpties voted for that numpty?

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