Lily M standing as women's officer again

It's the changing stories that intrigue me the most - almost as if there's only a passing relationship with reality, facts and truth...

Useful to someone I suppose. Easy to manipulate and a right brass neck - but lacking the critical thinking or intelligence needed for politics.

Quite why LM is such the darling of the trans movement and Momentum is beyond me. LM seems to be both offensive, aggressive and vulnerable all at the same time. Extreme narcissistic personality disorder would be my guess. No self-awareness at all.

LM doesn't seem remotely suited to politics - you need a pretty thick skin and a good public profile to genuinely survive in politics. Calling women in your own party "transphobes" and telling them to go fuck themselves is unlikely to lead to a career in parliament.

I agree LM looks ill. I veer between pity and anger tbh - LM is not much older than my own oldest child, and I just cannot imagine, in my wildest dreams, my eldest behaving like this.

Anne Ruzylo (and Gill) are exactly the sort of calibre of women needed in the Labour Party - and that the former was chased out of the Labour Party by LM & cronies is a travesty. Very pleased to hear Gill succeeded though.

Gah! From 15-18 !

I was in the army, living in Germany and going through my first divorce at 21

My dad had worked down the pit from 15-19, then done two years of national service and another year back down the pit by the age of 21.

I was in the army, living in Germany and going through my first divorce at 21 

I had a degree, a post grad a job and a mortgage at that age - I had also moved county (on my own) by 21. Still a child, my arse.

Anne Ruzlyo is fantastic.

She really is. Warm, articulate and erudite.

Anne Ruzylo's speech from November 2017 when she describes how LM and others targetted her.

Anne Ruzylo also speaks about her concerns (based on professional experience) for vulnerable female prisoners.

In light of the male Karen White's sexual assault of four women in the female estate this year,. it is a tragedy that while LM was feted, Anne Ruzylo was so bady treated by Labour.

Anne Ruzlyo is fantastic.

To be honest I think Lily Madigan looks quite unwell, and I would hope for their own wellbeing that someone encourages them to take some time out of the public eye.

In what way? Serious question? In what way do they look unwell? Because I honestly can't see that. They look like a typical early twenties young person who probably has a lot of late nights in the pub and isn't eating or living as healthily as they should.

If Labour wants to get rid of women's officer posts and women only shortlists, it should have that conversation openly and honestly, and explain why it's so different now compared to when these posts were created. Not abolish them by the back door

Yes, autistic, partially sighted, disabled and schizophrenic, then something about schizo affective disorder wasn’t there ?

Lily is not 19 ! Lily is nearly 21. Most people that age would be leaving university in a few months time, having matured somewhat during their three years there.

I recall them claiming to be autistic and also partially sighted?

oh, and the claim to be disabled.

Oh, yes. I had forgotten about that. There was some sort of alleged mobility issue, wasn't there?

I don't see anything wrong with a man being a woman's officer

I do.

If we ever get to the point where it would be OK for a man to be a women's officer we would no longer need a women's officer or all-women shortlists.

Anne Ruzlyo is an absolute STAR- a brilliant speaker.

I don't see anything wrong with a man being a woman's officer

In theory, I don't either. But as it happens, to become a LP women's officer you apply through a women-only shortlist, from which other men are legally excluded.

What makes a man who identifies as a woman different from any other man?
They should just open up the position to everyone. I really wouldn't have a problem with that.

It's insulting to open a women-only shortlist to a few men who fancy it, or are simply trying to make a political statement by entering it, it makes a mockery of female opression.

I don't see anything wrong with a man being a woman's officer

Then you're not looking hard enough. One of the things that has really sunk into me the past few months is that the under representation of women in public roles, particularly parliament, is a huge, huge problem for women. Particularly that the women who have managed to rise to the top have not got there by representing women, women's interests or by being in any way challenging to the system.

Watch Anne Ruzlyo talk for 2 minutes on youtube and then name any MP or cabinet minister that can talk to a room of people like that, with her skill, experience, fluency. Why has someone of Anne's calibre not been pushed up through the Labour ranks? How many more excellent people, particularly female people, are there stuck doing the donkey work at lower party level?

oh, and the claim to be disabled. That one lasted a few days, maximum

Oh, and the claim to be autistic.

Leaving aside the lies

Oh, and the blaming the brother for hacking into h** Twitter account.

Sorry @echobelly but I take a completely different view.

Yes, Madigan is young and still trying to find a role/place in life, but there is a real, vicious streak in their character.

Leaving aside the lies - denying the Jimmy Saville/rape social media, denying the bullying of the Women's Officer in Bexhill, denying multiple social media accounts, then saying they have a GRC, then saying they don't, then saying they sued their school when they did no such thing - underlying everything is a thread of venom towards women who don't fully support them.

Putting XX on their Twitter, and saying it was just "kisses", sniggering yesterday that Gill doesn't have a Twitter, the two lesbian ex-girlfriends now wanting nothing to do with them, using the sensitive issues of women's refuges and period poverty to burnish their "female" credentials, it's all pretty unpleasant - not to say manipulative.

I do accept though that Madigan is vulnerable. There has been a rupture with their parents - and their brother has basically accused them of lying to maintain a public platform. And Madigan has tweeted about previous mental health problems and the medication they have taken, I think for schizophrenia.

So who knows the future? I think Madigan sees Labour as their substitute family, so will just keep trying to find a place in the Party, and that will involve going for women - it never seems to be men, does it?