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Lily M standing as women's officer again

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ScarletBegonias · 23/10/2018 11:17

Gather LM is saying that they had to give up the previous post because they left the area (to go to Goldsmiths) but they're now standing for the women's officer post in Lewisham Deptford CLP. Voting is on Sunday, apparently.

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R0wantrees · 24/10/2018 08:17

Who is looking after LM?

Tea Uglow seems to be a significant source of support for LM.

Dragon3 · 24/10/2018 08:15

I find that FB thread chilling. What has happened to the Labour party?

Lily is being used. Lily should walk away.

FekkoTheLawyer · 24/10/2018 08:05

Who, this one? (With compulsory gurning selfie next to corbyn). Trying very hard to get extra brownie points.

Lily M standing as women's officer again
shetheyhim · 24/10/2018 00:45

After every sentence there is an edit.

every line is scripted

Every line is a statement

LM looks like they have a hand up their skirt

How can any Labour Party Member not see through this.
?

Who is looking after LM?

Who is using LM?

Anyone in a real mentoring position should be taking care of you.

LM annoys me as much as any 19 year old heading off for uni. Except their youthful ideals are being exploited - your ideas are being quoted, set down and immortalised.

I hate the trajectory of this.

Lily go and learn and dump all of those who are exploiting you. Big clue, it’s not the TERFS

Ereshkigal · 24/10/2018 00:43

It would seem that the long arm of COMPLIANCE reaches everywhere...

AngryAttackKittens · 24/10/2018 00:40

I am not even a member of the sodding Labour Party.

Are they going to try to bring the entire bloody country into Compliance? Boundaries, people!

Ereshkigal · 24/10/2018 00:34

I once left a critical comment on a some Labour Facebook page, whereupon I got a snotty message to my personal email account from the secretary of the local Labour Party telling me off. I am not even a member of the sodding Labour Party.

Hope you told them to go fuck themselves. Possibly more politely. Or not.

BlackForestCake · 24/10/2018 00:31

Exactly, pretty sure that isn't legal. I am a Labour Party member but have never shared my FB with them, wonder if Compliance would have emailed me?

I once left a critical comment on a some Labour Facebook page, whereupon I got a snotty message to my personal email account from the secretary of the local Labour Party telling me off. I am not even a member of the sodding Labour Party.

It seems to me that the Blairite wing is even more militant about trans cult politics than Momentum is, for what it's worth.

2rebecca · 24/10/2018 00:10

I hope they keep in the mad ravings about transwomen being so much better at being women than we are. It then puts all their ravings about gender critical women in perspective and shows the misogyny at the heart of trans activism. It's not the first time I've seen that theory expressed. I don't get how any actual women or sane man can go along with it.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/10/2018 23:48

At some point the more diligent comrades are going to run out of nasty women and will have to start purging each other.

LangCleg · 23/10/2018 23:33

Could the left not aim to be a bit less obvious with the self-parody? And I say that as someone who is left.

I think this woman purging is quite boring though. The least they could do is purge a famous woman.

Could it be that there aren't any left?!

AngryAttackKittens · 23/10/2018 23:26

Could the left not aim to be a bit less obvious with the self-parody? And I say that as someone who is left.

LangCleg · 23/10/2018 23:24

I'm still intrigued by the sinister sounding 'Compliance'.

Before they started chucking out women for wrongthink, compliance was all about the various leadership elections and purging the supporters who wanted to vote for Corbyn - but then Momentum won and now they're doing the compliance purging. Or something. It's not Labour if it's not purging, I think we can all gather. It was funny when they purged Jason of the Sleaford Mods.

You too, could be a star of the compliance unit

(Not, I didn't make that up.)

www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/michael-chessum/great-labour-purge-is-underway

Ereshkigal · 23/10/2018 23:24

It should definitely always be written in all CAPs.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/10/2018 23:23

Every time I see someone threaten a fellow party member with COMPLIANCE my confidence that Labour have a hope in hell of winning an election any time soon fades just that bit more.

Do they not realize how Orwellian that sounds or do they just not care?

Ereshkigal · 23/10/2018 23:23

The impression I'm getting is that most of the locals wish the lot of them would piss off.

Wouldn't anyone?

Ereshkigal · 23/10/2018 23:21

I was just coming to post that too.

GiantKitten · 23/10/2018 23:11

All the missing GC posts have been hidden, not deleted, because Momentum police want to check them all with COMPLIANCE for party membership.

Is Ellen a GF or what?

twitter.com/ellenlmorrison/status/1054811843573805057

AngryAttackKittens · 23/10/2018 23:09

Anyone who's ever been to Deptford will immediately realize why the idea of Lily representing the women there is so absurd. Silly posh white kid who has no hope of grasping the issues that women there actually struggle with even if you put aside the trans issue.

If the Momentum lot manage to push Lily through to the position then all that will happen is the party's ties with local women will get weaker, which may well result in lower voter turnout next general election.

ScarletBegonias · 23/10/2018 23:06

Lily was not voted in

Yeah - but it seems clear that Lily is still in the ballot for Sunday's vote. And there are people like Labour Left LGBT on Twitter urging everyone to vote for Lily.

I've no idea how any of this works. I'm still intrigued by the sinister sounding 'Compliance'. Is it some sort of committee monitoring all Labour members for unacceptable expression of views?

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AngryAttackKittens · 23/10/2018 22:59

I have a friend who's from Lewisham. She's not happy about the way Goldsmiths students have been trying to speak for the people who were born and raised there. The impression I'm getting is that most of the locals wish the lot of them would piss off.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/10/2018 22:57

So going by the link Shots posted, Lily tried to stand but the local branch of the party in Lewisham has had enough of Momentum and Lily was not voted in?

That's democracy, mate. People aren't actually required to vote for whatever fool Momentum puts forward.

reallybadidea · 23/10/2018 22:54

all transwomen are women but not all women are trans.

Or as George Orwell, with his freaky prescience, wrote: 'all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others'.

LassWiADelicateAir · 23/10/2018 22:44

By deciding not to back Lily and other comrades, delegate spaces were left open for the right-wing of the Party, with some on the left effectively choosing this over the alternative of a united left

I'm greatly amused by this.

Ereshkigal · 23/10/2018 22:35

So by the logic of that load of bollocks, a transwoman cannot speak on the 'cis' woman experience either, since they aren't 'cis' women.

Sadly they don't do logic. From what I saw that was already tried. Apparently there are " very few issues that pertain directly to having a womb, vagina or ovaries, transwomen are effected by all things ciswomen are effected by" except you've just contradicted yourself, you fuckwit

I can't due to threat of Labour Compliance sending me to the gulag, but someone should go and point out to her the LITERAL VIOLENCE and ERASURE of not putting a space between "trans" and "women".

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