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Lily M standing as women's officer again

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ScarletBegonias · 23/10/2018 11:17

Gather LM is saying that they had to give up the previous post because they left the area (to go to Goldsmiths) but they're now standing for the women's officer post in Lewisham Deptford CLP. Voting is on Sunday, apparently.

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sorenipples · 24/10/2018 20:59

She didn't get the SU position. I presume they don't normally go to freshers
mobile.twitter.com/GoldsmithsSU?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
I hope she has time to study! I note she went for the lgbtq+ role not the trans one, presumably standing as a lesbian.

I presume Gil and women like her will do the grunt work of women's officer in the CLP whatever the result.

BettyDuMonde · 24/10/2018 20:58

Labour Branches are organised by council voting wards and CLPs (Constituency Labour Party) are organised by Parliamentary constituency.

Every labour member technically has both a branch and a CLP, although some branches are too small to organise effectively.

My local branch meetings usually attract around 10-15 people and CLP around 100-150

NoseringGirl · 24/10/2018 20:49

Sorry if this is a daft question, but what's the different between CLP and branch?

BettyDuMonde · 24/10/2018 20:45

That’s 4 different positions so far:

Labour BRANCH LGBT

Labour CLP Women’s Officer (not yet voted on)

Goldsmiths Labour (Student society) Women’s Officer

And

Goldsmiths NUS LGBT Officer (not yet voted on)

JustABrokenDoll · 24/10/2018 20:39

Oh hang on I misread that.

Was Lily already LGBTQ+ Officer and is now Women's Officer?

When do they find the time to study.

JustABrokenDoll · 24/10/2018 20:29

Goldsmith's Women's Officer?

Says here they were running for LGBT Officer?

Lily M standing as women's officer again
RogerAllamsFangirl · 24/10/2018 20:28

Is that Goldsmiths Labour? Hardly surprising. Lily is going to be busy with all these political posts. Hope the degree doesn't suffer.

NotANotMan · 24/10/2018 20:14

So

Lily M standing as women's officer again
Needmoresleep · 24/10/2018 20:04

I heard similar about Brighton and the attempts to parachute Sophie Cook in over the heads of long serving volunteers who had campaigned hard for community services, knocked on doors during elections and so on.

Is Labour desperate to have the first trans MP?

GiantKitten · 24/10/2018 19:59

It’s all about the speshul with Lily & Lily’s fangirls 🙄

ShotsFired · 24/10/2018 19:57

Unlikely.

They wouldn't be speshul there.

Ereshkigal · 24/10/2018 19:34

What's wrong with Madigan doing the LGBT role? Might even be good at that.

Ereshkigal · 24/10/2018 19:33

Not sure of the source of this screen shot but it's from Twitter re: FB discussion of the Lewisham-LM-momentum business).

It's Lewisham Momentum FB page I think. I have two screenshots I took of that exchange.

hackmum · 24/10/2018 19:05

That's a lovely tribute, ilivethere. I've been reading on Facebook about the other amazing community work Gill has done over the years. She sounds like an exceptional woman.

I can't tell you angry I am at all this. What kind of woman-hating moron would you have to be to vote for Lily Madigan over someone like that?

KittyKlawsReturns · 24/10/2018 19:04

Ilivethere Gill sounds wonderful and perfect as a Woman's Officer. The fact this is happening is undemocratic and a travesty. I sincerely hope Gill wins - she deserves it and it sounds like the community need her.

RedToothBrush · 24/10/2018 18:54

A pet hate of the labour voting electorate is parachuting in a middle class politician. Particularly if its at the expense of a well known and appreciated local.

Cos nothing says you care about working class communities like shitting all over someone with a proved local record, in favour of a fuckwit careerist.

FekkoTheLawyer · 24/10/2018 18:28

Well all she has to do is say that she was actually born Gregor and has a willy, and hey presto, winner.

EssentialHummus · 24/10/2018 18:24

Like ilivethere I, er, live there and attend Gill’s singing sessions. She has a wonderful ability to connect with just about everyone who comes through the door, to make them feel welcome, and to foster a sense of community. Gill is an exceptional woman and a real community champion.

FekkoTheLawyer · 24/10/2018 17:57

Because boys trump women every time.

RedToothBrush · 24/10/2018 17:52

This is politics as a fashion accessory. Not politics which helps people.

AngryAttackKittens · 24/10/2018 17:50

That's a good point actually. When I was that age I tried to learn as much from the older women around me as I could. Why isn't Lily doing that?

littlbrowndog · 24/10/2018 17:41

Yeah ilivehere it’s a pack of shite when someone like gill is not favoured cos trans is the flavour of the day to the woke dudes
They should be fucking ashamed of themselves as should Madigan
Fucking ashamed
And if the Madigan really wants to learn how to be a women’s officer Madigan should be shadowing someone like gill not standing against her
Fucking shameful

PyeWackets · 24/10/2018 17:34

It seems women and women's experience are taken for granted nowadays. I hope I'm proved wrong.

ilivethere · 24/10/2018 17:18

I’m a mumsnet lurker but wanted to register to say this.

I live in the area this is happening. I know of Gill (who is running as women officer against lily) because she runs a baby singing group twice a week as a volunteer at the new cross learning centre which which she runs as a volunteer and I believe led the campaign to keep it open. It is a vital resource in the community.

I don’t know her well at all but from what I’ve seen she is an amazing women. Funny, kind, inclusive and strong. Giving up her time to help her community but also fun, approachable and engaging.

I was a new mother at her group. It was one of the things I dared to first go to with my screaming baby. She memorises every child’s name so she can sing them hello. Every single one! There are sometimes 20plus children which change each week. Yet every week she remembers the children’s names. I didn’t go for 5 months and she still knew my daughter when we went back. It’s a diverse baby group made of many of langages and nationalities - she makes everyone feel included and part of it. That is a real skill. She made a big impression on me straight away.

She is just the sort of person I would feel comfortable talking to or wanting to take advice from. Someone who really gets women and the issues they face. But, maybe more importantly for this area someone who is accessible and easy to talk to, for not just me but all different types of women. I don’t know a lot about her campaigning but I get the impression she is absolutely vital to the area and truly dedicated to helping it.

The area around here has a lot of issues. Poverty, drug use and refugees etc. These are deep complex issues with very alienated members of society who need practical help and representation. I struggle to understand how someone young who has lived here less than a month could even start to understand or comprehend the issues of the women here who need help the most. I’ve lived here for 6 years and I would definitely not feel I am equipped to understand the difficulties here. This area needs hands on, down to earth help from someone who gets it. Not political show boating and airy, ideals.

Anyway, this all sounds a bit like a rant. I guess it is. I just can’t understand in what way Lily could be able to better serve this community’s needs more than someone like Gill. It seems so unfair and frankly so uncaring from the powers backing her. It really shows they don’t care about this area at all.

I don’t have a problem with Lily. I just think it’s so unfair that if it was anyone else with little track record and experience they wouldn’t stand a chance against someone with Gills dedication and hard work in the area. I actually don’t know Gill that well either. We are not friends or anything but like I said she always made an impression on me.

I’m all for a fair fight and democracy but I just hope this women’s officer position isn’t decided on by people who don’t care at all about this community. That someone isnt voted in for the wrong reasons because this election has become some kind of trendy, political, woke off. I just hope everyone who votes does so for the right reasons - for who they truly think will serve the diverse women of the area the best - it’s that simple.

Fallingirl · 24/10/2018 16:40

Yes, Labour/Momentum, we hear you loud and clear: women can only represent women, while men can represent everyone.

Much woke. So progressive.

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