Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lily M standing as women's officer again

487 replies

ScarletBegonias · 23/10/2018 11:17

Gather LM is saying that they had to give up the previous post because they left the area (to go to Goldsmiths) but they're now standing for the women's officer post in Lewisham Deptford CLP. Voting is on Sunday, apparently.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
38
Efferlunt · 25/10/2018 12:33

I’m surprised anyone could get goosebumps from a video which briefly outlined this candidate’s very minimal achievements.

littlbrowndog · 25/10/2018 12:29

🤮🤮
That’s how it makes me feel

JoanSummers · 25/10/2018 12:27

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

placemats · 25/10/2018 11:57

I applaud Gill for taking the stand to put herself up for election in this post against Madigan.

Gill, if you are reading. You rock!

I can't vote because I'm not a member of the Labour Party anymore and I don't live in Lewisham Deptford.

Good luck!

IKeepFlouncing · 25/10/2018 11:27

Don’t know if any uses local boards here on yes I’m going to NM might be worth promoting Gill. I using powers of twitter

Hopefully Gill given her community devotion will have lots of support amongst locals including mother&baby groups etc.

I worry for Gill because given how TRAs work that they won’t think twice if LM has a tantrum for losing and no doubt will see it as ‘victim’ opportunity. If Gill doesn’t get the vote in then it will be more proof of corruption that will see TRAs being plopped into every area over country to do this.

It shouldn’t even been up for vote!

PerthaBley · 25/10/2018 11:14

Let’s imagine a Labour Party so equal it no longer needs a Women’s Officer.

And when everyone is a women, no one will be.

Efferlunt · 25/10/2018 11:08

Two candidates.

One with a 30 year track record who saved a much needed community resource from closure and works in it on a weekly basis.

One with no track record of achieving anything for women who phoned three schools to ask if they needed more sanitary products

Surely it’s no contest?

placemats · 25/10/2018 10:57

Posted too soon. What I wanted to add is this is the agenda behind this. It has nothing to do with equality and all to to with getting rid of those pesky women who take up the space that men so rightly deserve.

placemats · 25/10/2018 10:55

Let’s imagine a Labour Party so equal it no longer needs a Women’s Officer.

from one of the tweets from the link above.

THIS is what it's all about.

FekkoTheLawyer · 25/10/2018 10:49

I suspect if asked what period poverty is, Lily would struggle to explain. Especially without any self reference, self pity or attacking women for upsetting the girlzfeelz by discussing 'wimmins ikky stuff'

Ereshkigal · 25/10/2018 10:29

Great post Joan. Really makes it starkly clear how much LM cares about this issue.

waterlego6064 · 25/10/2018 09:53

And the token mentions of period poverty are insulting. As pointed out above, Lily has not actually done anything helpful. ‘Just a photo’. Pathetic.

waterlego6064 · 25/10/2018 09:52

This is so infuriating!

Gill sounds absolutely wonderful and exactly the right sort of person for the role. I will be appalled if she loses out to Lily.

From the FB comments: ‘very few issues that pertain directly to having a womb, vagina or ovaries’

I replied to this to say that actually, biology is central to many feminist issues: FGM, period poverty, rape and sexual assault, contraception, pregnancy, abortion, birth, menopause etc etc

Promptly deleted, obviously. Asking a potential WOMEN’S OFFICER about women’s issues is apparently not on.

smeerf · 25/10/2018 09:47

@whitershadeofpale @ilivethere I will be there on Sunday, I'll have my baby in a sling and accompanied by my 60 year old mum who is also a CLP member. Feel free to say hi!

Maybe we should make little FWR badges to identify ourselves on occasions like this.

VintageFur · 25/10/2018 09:42

Ilivethere - that's a really lovely tribute to Jill.

I.cant.even... with ALL this BS.

But wrt period poverty. I am clearly a massive pride because I don't want to EVER have to tell a man face to face that I've folded up toilet roll from public toilets to use as sanitary protection. It's person and embarrassing.

JoanSummers · 25/10/2018 09:35

Also, remember James Morton's advice to TRAs:

to gain trust in the local community- and to approach moderate feminists, “correct misconceptions and forgive any ignorance they may have displayed”. They want to gain trust and make themselves likeable.

Apparently small acts like helping to campaign about period poverty or retweeting the local branch of Women’s Aid will make a difference and result in some reciprocation. They want to make it look like they care about Women's issues so they don’t appear threatening.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

So Madigan complies with possibly the laziest attempt Madigan can manage, taking a picture of Madiganself with a bit of black pen on their hand to show they "say no to period poverty". Follows that up by making it one of their campaigning points in this video.

But in the comments of the tweet sharing the video, a couple of local orgs actually working with period poverty show up and it is clear Madigan has had no contact with them at all:

PFPDeptford
@PFPDeptford
Replying to
Great to hear your proactive plans to tackle #periodpoverty, @LilyMadigan99. Do check out our Period Friendly Point @DeptfordLounge and @redboxselondon. Please share our details with the schools you've mentioned. Best of luck in your elections!

And

Red Box Project SE London
@redboxselondon
Thank you @PFPDeptford We’d love to talk to you about tackling period poverty in schools in Lewisham @LilyMadigan99**

Then when asked by another tweeter how they can join Madigan's "No to period poverty" campaign, Madigan makes it clear they have no campaign, "just a photo", but does one of those advised 'solidarity building' name drops:

LilyMadigan
@LilyMadigan99
Hi Thea! It’s just a photo to try and raise awareness. See if you have a @RedBoxProject near you; they do great work tackling period poverty.

This whole video and tweet thread is evidence of the TRA plan to fake interest in women's issues. No work here - lip service and marker pen is all a male needs to become a figurehead on a women's issue.

I fully expect the Guardian or Pink News or some other TRA mouthpiece to do an article on period poverty in the next few weeks or so and use Madigan as an 'expert source'.

Tweet thread:
mobile.twitter.com/LilyMadigan99/status/1054672481473253376

Lily M standing as women's officer again
Lily M standing as women's officer again
Lily M standing as women's officer again
AngryAttackKittens · 25/10/2018 09:26

I think Momentum is run by 100% British smug arseholes.

JoanSummers · 25/10/2018 09:08

Look at the blatant tell in this video at 1:30

mobile.twitter.com/LilyMadigan99/status/1054672481473253376/video/1

Dupers delight.

Notice there is also a cut in the edit there. Maybe the tell was too obvious on earlier takes.

hackmum · 25/10/2018 09:05

Lily is going to be very busy with all these different roles. Shouldn't she be concentrating on her studies? I imagine that undergraduate work, when you only have two A-levels, is quite demanding. Even at Goldsmiths.

sorenipples · 25/10/2018 08:13

If I try and think too hard I come to the conclusion that momentum is backed by Russians or some other agency trying to destabilise the country, or maybe keep the tories in power indefinitely.

No I don't actually believe that, but I can't come up with any other coherent explanation. It's one thing to believe that women were oppressed by gender identity not sex, but another to refuse those with an alternative view the opportunity to openly express it.

Women's issues aside , loosely following lily has exposed me to how momentum operate within labour. Do they have their own published manifesto? It would feel far more transparent if they openly stood as their own party.

FuriousOfSurrey · 25/10/2018 08:12

I wrote to my local Labour Party last week to tell them they have permanently lost my vote over this issue (have voted Labour since 1979 in my constituency which is true blue Conservative territory). Never again. I can't see someone who can't stay in the same room as someone with an opposing opinion because they don't feel safe doing well in the House of Commons! It amazes me. Gordon Brown totally fuck ed up his career for calling ONE opinionated woman a bigot but they are writing off 50% of their voters potentially as transphobes.

FekkoTheLawyer · 25/10/2018 07:55

So, almost 40 years since we had our first (tory) woman PM, Labour are catching up by desperately pushing... Trans women to the front.

Is this because they can't quite bring themselves to back women?

Why not push to get more disabled people into politics?

Why push so hard for a tiny minority of a minority who have zero life experience (apart from 'being trans', or not, or maybe) who are little interested in anything else, have done nothing 'political' that I can see beyond push their oven narrative, and are just not emotionally or mentally strong enough to do the job?

Does anyone know?

BettyDuMonde · 25/10/2018 00:42

Gill looks to be an excellent candidate with tons of relevant experience and I will be very surprised if someone so new to the CLP is elected instead. My MP is prone to saying a few carefully chosen words to direct votes towards her preferred candidates, I’m sure the MP for Lew&Dept will have similar techniques of her own. She’s likely been campaigning alongside Gill for a decade or more.

In the world of CLP internal elections, candidates are judged by numbers of doors knocked and leaflets delivered, not number of twitter followers.
As far as I can tell Lewisham & Deptford organise under the delegate system, and established members don’t fritter away their chances to become/stay delegates.

Ereshkigal · 25/10/2018 00:15

Is Labour desperate to have the first trans MP?

Yes I think so, but with Lily at least they're barking up the wrong tree. Lily can't cope with public life very well already and isn't cut out for it at all.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.