Lily M standing as women's officer again

"being at the pinnacle of oppression"

It means being good at PR of Grieveance Studies.

At the top of the oppression Olympics pyramid I guess. For people who are so unoppressed that they have time to play competitions over who is worse off.

Olenna I missed that, where is it from?

WTf does "being at the pinnacle of oppression" mean?

well, quite! Out with the old and in with the new, eh, even when you're using the facility that the old voluntarily saved.

What I find frustrating is that, leaving all aspects of sex and gender aside, one of these people is overwhelmingly better qualified for the job than the other.......l

I have a theory...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-45978590

Young 'uns don't mature very early these days. I guess its because we have had child labour laws for a while (no kids up chimneys) and with so many are going into higher education, they don't see the real wold until they are in their 20s.

Maybe we should raise the age of public office holders?

Write it on your hands in black marker pen?

:D

smeerf Maybe we should make little FWR badges to identify ourselves on occasions like this.

Write it on your hands in black marker pen?

Yes it's a performance of inclusivity that seems to confirm that the speakers don't genuinely believe that the person addressed is female, as that isn't how female people in the same position are usually spoken to

I think it was one of posies YouTube videos where she said about People assuming that of they are kind enough and nice enough and inclusive enough it will be ok. Nothing will happen to them

"For them, this is just about validating Lily’s identity, because it shows how deep and profound and accepting they are."

Yes it's a performance of inclusivity that seems to confirm that the speakers don't genuinely believe that the person addressed is female, as that isn't how female people in the same position are usually spoken to. A female person who made a video matching that one would endure much criticism (or be ignored entirely) because of the lightweight nature of the political goals, the lack of proven history in the local area or of organising, the lack of connections to local orgs and community, the age and inexperience of the person, and frankly their appearance, voice and delivery. I'm not saying the last few are fair, I'd consider them pretty sexist and judgmental in most cases, but the fact is that a female person doing similar to this would be torn apart.

Can you imagine the response to a female person standing for a position in Labour begging for personal financial support on twitter? Wouldn't be good.

Thanks @Smeerf, I’ll be there!

Not sure why I was deleted as I didn't use anyone's twitter handle and they've made the posts publicly so..? I don't think I misgendered or used forbidden words either?

I'll check my email when I can but very confused by deletion of what seemed a relevant point about double standards in how politicians who aren't female are spoken to compared to those who are.

If someone had called me girl/gal/grrrrrl/grill when I was 20 I wouldn't have been very impressed. I would think that they were a teensy bit piss taking.

Floral ‘validation cues’. Yes, exactly that.

the whole 'yaaaaaaaaaaaas!' does my head in, can't bear it.

And yes to the ‘go gurl’ thing. It’s the sort of thing people say to drag queens, isn’t it? Surely women don’t say it to other women?

From the FB comments: ‘very few issues that pertain directly to having a womb, vagina or ovaries’

In other words, the men in momentum cannot see that women have any particukar issues for being women, so a man can represent women just fine.

The men have decided the Labour party no longer needs women’s officers, and if women disagree, they will be hounded by ‘compliance’.

Sounds like Americanisms to me.

It's quite blatantly obvious that the repeated 'girl' 'gal' 'gurl' references are simple validation cues. Marginally more subtle than a stabby-fingered "I am a woman and I'm going to keep saying until it penetrates!" But not a fat lot.

Joan, yes, absolutely! Almost all of the commenters seem to be young trans people or otherwise very woke young libfems.

Their mission is simply to make trans people feel great and special. Never mind actual politics; they don’t engage with that. Never mind whether Lily has enough experience for the role. For them, this is just about validating Lily’s identity, because it shows how deep and profound and accepting they are.

Is honey identifying as something else these days?

And more how they always use "girl" in their response or comment on appearence in some way.

Who talks like that.

They don't believe it themselves or they wouldn't do it.

L goes home and laughS at how the sheep follow them.

Your voice is like honey!

Having heard Madigan speak I am boggling at this.