Lily M standing as women's officer again

But lily has a GRC, because they are female. They said so on twitter.

L does not have a GRC, because they are expensive. Said so on Twitter.

So does LM have a GRC (can stand for All Women Shortlist selection) or not? LM isn't clear themselves, apparently.... I'd think not, given the need to provide evidence of two years "living as a woman" and we all know - because it has been shared online - that things like a new passport have only recently been acquired.

The marriage point is interesting, though. A self-IDed transwoman can get married, just not using their preferred gender on the paperwork (or is marriage paperwork sex based? I don't actually know) So our hypothetical transwoman has two options 1) get married as a man and then transition (spousal veto comes into play, though it'd surely be slightly odd to agree to marry someone who was already IDing as female and presumably wants to walk down the aisle in a white dress, then object to them applying for a GRC?). 2) Get legal paperwork sorted and then marry in a same sex (gender?) ceremony. 3) Don't get married. 4) Get married but not apply for a GRC

AugustL those tweets show somebody with a shaky grasp on reality and make me wonder whether Lily is okay. It is impossible that somebody so deeply into trans culture wouldn't know the actual law WRT trans issues.

There was a recent case where a TW applied again and again for a GRC and got it in the end (can't remember who, one of the convicted offenders. It was discussed on FWR). So right of appeal does exist in some form.

BettyDuMonde goldsmiths female Labour students will have let Lily run unopposed because of who she is and because she's trans. Weird though those tweets look like she's saying she ran unopposed because the others who wanted to run were "terfs" and they're not allowed.

Didn't know whether to make a new thread.

What's the truth Lily? Tweets stating she has a GNC, VS recent tweets suggesting she doesn't have a GNC, in an appeal to people to fill the consultation to change the GRA.

Also 1. Can already get married, without self-ID 2. Does not cost a lot. £140 . 3. BIG ONE. claims getting a GRC "requires me to irreversibly alter my body" wow. Not true at all. You don't have to change a single thing about your body to get one. It's explicitly stated. I've seen another person claim this. It's a flat out manipulative lie. Who has been telling people this? If people have completed the consultation in favour of self-ID based on this lie... Smh ...

I did too BertandRussell a while back as clearly obvious something not right, I mean the belief of being able to get pregnant! But the pure vile nastyness is of their own choice. My children come from ‘broke home’ with all the usual typical stereotype that come with that, that doesn’t give them excuse to be arseholes with chip on their shoulders. not that I’d even allow it

L.M like rest of them will allow Gill to be abused insulted and harassed not the type to say hold on this is wrong.

Lily's ability to deliver a one take campaign speech is not relevant to her ability to be a CLP officer. And I'm sure she can have media training before being PM ;)

Her tweets provide plenty of ammunition without needing to be petty.

I found it very ominous that apparently labour doesn't allow transphobes, so no woman stood against her.

Momentum supporting Lily for another women's role suggests that her views and actions (terf hunter general) are endorsed. Is there an official statement on this? Is compliance actually removing people? Are you officially not welcome in Labour if you think Woman and associated provisions is a matter of immutable biological sex not identity? Can we get an official statement?

Lily’s delivery did not feel impassioned. It sounded like someone reading from a cue.

They were, definitely. The video has all the giveaway pauses and looking just off camera.

I haven’t watched the whole thing but in the bits I did watch I thought it cut after every sentence? As if it was entirely scripted but Lily can only memorise one sentence at a time.

If anyone wants to come and say hello. Then I’ll be wearing a bright pink coat and be alone.

Excellent! Thank you, Whitershadeofpale

In other news, LM is Goldsmiths Labour Women’s Officer because LM ran unopposed.

Surely LM’s first job as WO should be to investigate why there are no female Goldsmiths students running for this position and what can be done to mitigate the conditions that make it difficult for women to take up these positions - ie, is a commitment to caring for children/elderly parents that make evening meetings difficult to attend? Are the meetings held at a venue that is easy and safe to access for women who are arriving/leaving alone? Do female students at Goldsmiths think labour is relevant to their circumstances? Does the party have a poor reputation amongst women students locally or nationally?

That kind of thing.

I feel sorry for Lily. And Aimee. And all the very young ones really. They are being manipulated by someone.

@BettyDuMonde live updates ahead!

Lily’s delivery did not feel impassioned. It sounded like someone reading from a cue.

They were, definitely. The video has all the giveaway pauses and looking just off camera.

Did you catch the dupers delight smile when Madigan says they won't lie?

To the L&D members on this thread who are attending on Sunday - firstly, you rock.

Secondly, please, please, post live updates from the meeting? 🙏

Yes, that's interesting. As suspected, the phraseology suggests a hierarchy and LM is seeing the usefulness of being notionally involved in 'oppression' for the opportunity of power that this will entail.

Obviously, I'm being generous with the analysis here, LM has form for not really understanding the vocab they use, so it may well not be quite as sinister as that - but the clear implication is LM sees this as leverage rather than anything else.

I thought it was pinnacles of oppression.

Hahah Madigan having a laugh 😂
Feck what a
Oh well pinnacles of oppression

Here's the link to LM's spiel: Tweet thread:
mobile.twitter.com/LilyMadigan99/status/1054672481473253376

LM says something like being reminded of the need for "practical intersectional feminism" (which is why LM phoned three schools to ask if they needed any tampons - didn't actually do anything about it, mind, just made some calls). And that LM would work for women "at the pinnacle of oppression"

Can someone link to Lily’s campaign speech? I can’t find it.

I thought so too Olennas Lily is young, which is not a bad thing in itself- plenty of young people have excellent ideas and passion for politics. But Lily doesn’t seem to be one of them.

Lily’s delivery did not feel impassioned. It sounded like someone reading from a cue.

Olenna, blimey, that's commitment. Well done. Did LM say they were at the pinnacle of oppression? I'm interested in the context here. Quite revealing if they did.

Better than usual then?

Floral - I took one for the team and watched the whole LM election video

I must have watched a very different video to the one watched by everyone who commented on it on LM's Twitter feed - it was stilted, barely coherent in places and very lightweight

Oh, I see. Essentially it's a description of someone using 'oppression' as a means of gaining power. Textbook LM I would say then.