TG day of remembrance

Even if it does happen in Brazil and not the UK like people are making out, it clearly does happen then.
Are we not allowed or shouldn't be remembering or caring about anything that isn't in our country?
Do away with foreign aid then if that's the case.
Oh and any appeals for starving children in Africa etc. Doesn't concern us.
Except it does as I don't think like that.

I will light a candle for all who have lost their lives on transgender rememberance day, as I will also be doing on Nov25th for woman and regularly do on most rememberance days

Nice plan, think I will be doing too for both.

Yes it happens. In Brazil. As no one has said otherwise. It's dishonest to claim the UK has a trans murder problem. Which no one has done here, but as pp said the likes of Bergdorf do by claiming they have an average life expectancy of 35.

Even if some on here that should read

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people Yes it does happen, there are many links backing this up. This one seemed to put a lot of them in one place. Pull your heads out of the sand. People are dead and this pure disrespect because you don’t believe they are woman or whatever is astonishing

There you go then, actual link and not the one people have said to others no not that one, stop posting it" - a whole list in one place that can be backed up from others to show yes,it actually does happen. Even some on here are saying it doesn't.

Nope, not twisting - saying that why should they have one, it hardly ever happens and it's not in the UK anyway - it's all here on the thread if you have a look.

Oh FFS

No-one on here "doesn't care" about "any life lost". Just stop it with the twisting vile insinuations

@bespin please don’t let a group of intolerant people get you down. In the real world, people have empathy and care greatly about any life lost.

Also wot @EarlyWalker just said We don't all think like this, even though it sometimes seems so on here.

I think trans people should have a day of remembrance if they want one.

Murder rates averaged from data from 2008-2016 in England and Wales:

All: 1.01 per 100,000
Men: 1.38 per 100,000
Women: 0.64 per 100,000
Trans (medical transition) 0.68 per 100,000
GNC/non "cis" identifying: 0.14 per 100,000

HTH.

Not questioning whether trans murder victims exist early, read my post. I was asking about what previous poster described as "trans shock", trans people being murdered because they've gone to bed with someone without disclosing that they're trans. I'm not sure why the PP brought that up but they did so I wanted to know why and whether there are recorded cases.

bespin please don’t let a group of intolerant people get you down. In the real world, people have empathy and care greatly about any life lost.

I’m sorry to hear about your friend, a good friend of mine nearly went the same way but thankfully he pulled through in the end.

I will light a candle for all who have lost their lives on transgender rememberance day, as I will also be doing on Nov25th for woman and regularly do on most rememberance days.

@Bespin

hi mumsnet I am sure some of you feel thst you have valid reasons for thinking that we don't need a day of remembrance. do you even know what we do on that day or have even bothered to find out. we usually read all the names and the reason they are on the list, or we light a candle and personally I think about the people I have known that are no longer with us. not through violance but through them not being able to continue to be who they are because the cost was too high for them. If you have ever. lost someone like that then maybe you too would like a day where you remembered them and all the other People like them that were not as lucky as you are to have been born in a more tolerant country or had people around them that helped in the times it got dark and beleive me it can get very dark. I don't care what your replys are to this but if the trans community Truely came on. here and you listened to there individual reasons for why we remember this day then you might think maybe this is the one thing we let them have it does not harm you in any way and brings a lot of comfort to many people.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people

Yes it does happen, there are many links backing this up. This one seemed to put a lot of them in one place. Pull your heads out of the sand. People are dead and this pure disrespect because you don’t believe they are woman or whatever is astonishing.

Not to mention those that have committed suicide.

Way too far.

IKeepFlouncing - I haven't called you any name. Unlike what you do to me. I'm not a TRA. Just someone who has a different view to you.

Ver n Earl You know I give zero fucks right? just like the zero fucks I give if you call me bigot, transphobic and any other name.

Zero.... nil.... none whatsoever gives a fuck from me

Any actual victims or is it purely a theoretical concept you're throwing out to show yet again how victimised trans people are?

Jaysus. Do you hear how that sounds? Even on this thread people have admitted that it does happen but not in the UK etc and basically saying so why do we need one as it doesn't happen in the UK and there's only a few victims anyway.
So it seems it does happen.Whichever country it is in. So they're entitled to remember those who are victims.

So this trans shock thing. Any actual victims or is it purely a theoretical concept you're throwing out to show yet again how victimised trans people are? Going to bed with someone without disclosing your trans status first would be an abusive thing to do, no excuse for violence but ugh, who'd even do that?

People saying you're just remembering trans people who've died, that's fine. Not the same as talking about people being murdered "just for being like them" or whatever the phrasing was (sry can't easily look back on phone), that's the bit that feels deceptive and scaremongering and is how I keep hearing this event being represented.

@EarlyWalker it's ridiculous,isn't' it? The name calling, the accusations, if you dare to think differently.
Definite de ja vu. There's no need for it.And I'm not saying that because I'm saying wimmin be nice before someone starts, I'd be saying that to absolutely anyone male or female doing the same!

Haha @verbeena I think we’re being called TRA’s again, de ja vu.

So I believe that we shouldn’t be making light of a day that a minority group of people have set up to remember those like them that have been murdered, that makes me a TRA? Am I also a man? A handmaiden? Am I allowed to call you a bigot? Or is the name calling only allowed one way?

*here not her