TG day of remembrance

Soo, Sawyer99, now your day has ended can we think about the many women whose lives are blighted and even ended by male violence? And what sort of society we will have if men can just declare themselves women , how that will make women feel safe and be able to reach our full potential? My feeling is that they're mutually exclusive. But you probably already guessed that.

Plus Transgender day of remembrance has been a thing since 1998. Keep your bigotry to yourself while we mourn our trans siblings

Naomi Hersi.

Today is a day to avoid social media.

Women and Equalities (@WomenEqualities) Tweeted:
Today is Trans Day of Remembrance. We are remembering those trans people who have died because of hatred and intolerance. We want to create a society where everyone is safe and can reach their full potential. #TDOR #TDOR2018 #EqualityBenefitsEveryone t.co/U1yxrt45dj twitter.com/WomenEqualities/status/1064766555177799680?s=17

The drama has started on Twitter by the Womens and Equalities Commission no less.

Lest we forget eh!

Earlywalker I didn't know abut white ribbon day - thank you

so Perhaps some women could look into setting up their own if they’re not happy with that. was a bit unnecessary and women have set up many things to remember women, as they should.

As I said previously I have no problem with anyone having a day of remembrance for their people/community. I don't see this as connected to the issues of self ID etc.

White ribbon day does, yes it was set up by men. Perhaps some women could look into setting up their own if they’re not happy with that.

Violence against women and girls is a big problem. White Ribbon UK asks men to step up and become part of the solution. For 16 days starting November 25th, thousands of people across the UK will wear a white ribbon, and take a stand against violence.

That is 16 days. Trans people deserve their day. It’s ridiculous that anyone would even try and argue against that. I’d love to see the reaction if men came on MN and said we didn’t deserve a woman’s rememberance day because we’re only doing it for manipulating the public.

cross posted with Hebe there

I don't mind anyone having a day of remembrance to think about people who have suffered or died - even if it is just one person.

It would be fitting if women had a day of remembrance of their own (although a week, month... would be more fitting given the figures involved) to remember all the women who have died at the hands of men. It would also be fitting if we could have that and be assured it wouldn't be hijacked. We can only dream.

But Trans day of remembrance is fine by me - people are entitled to remember and reflect.

Transphobia is deplorable here

From Trans Murder Monitoring carried out by Transgender Europe early. It was cited earlier in the thread.

And you know what makes me sick? Someone who says they're a mother who wishes they had given their child drugs that would have damaged their bone density, reduced their IQ and rendered them infertile. That really is sick

As are you littlebrowndog.

No point to engage with f4 Mary
F4 just spinning around
Everywhere

I’d personally like the know where the data of ‘trans people are statistically the safest group in the uk’ Comes from?

The link to women's rights comes when the painting of trans people as victims, including misleading murder stats, is used as a tool to beat down discussion of women's rights

So exactly what I said uptheead and was told I was wrong? Trans rememberance day is an issue because people are only doing it to portray the community as victims so they can get in woman’s spaces.

It’s funny, they thought of the day 20 years ago and have done it every year since, purely so that they could use it in 2018 to shut down woman, those clever old trans folk, must be time travellers too!

I was hoping when you said 'false data' you'd actually cite an example of data that are false, rather than just repeating your assertion.

Yes - pointing to websites that look legit and scientific but just carry an anti trans agenda.

"Many of them are revisionists and frequently refer to false data"

Oh really? Do you have any examples of this?

Narcissistic projection spamming

I don't have an issue with a day of remembrance for Trans people. Grieving is hard. I hope their community can find comfort together and also some solutions to help prevent violence against them. I would wish the same for any group/community. I also imagine anyone using another's death for political gain would be viewed poorly by those grieving.

Just an aside, this maybe already mentioned, but I'm busy today so not going through 18 pages. In regards to Whiteribbon.org. Yes it is a men's organisation and it is copping a huge backlash here in Australia at the moment. Due to questionable comments made concerning women's reproductive rights. Of course they have now backtracked these comments but the public response is, Screw You, our donations are now going direct to refuges and frontline organisations.

Is she confusing the mean (what most people mean by average) with the mode (the most likely age at which to die)?

A mode of 35 seems rather high for such a dangerous profession.

Indeed! Women generally start off in prostitution there in their teens, so surely MTFs too?

Bit lost? Sorry, what?

Wrong thread!

Cold heart? Oh look it appears I complete full circle

Back at zero fucks