Scottish Green Party - officially unwelcome if you don't accept someone's gender

No particular beef with the Scottish Green Party other than a late discovery of their misogyny!

And just pointing out that where a party (or any organisation, for that matter), is dominated almost completely by white middle class males, misogyny thrives.

Not that they are alone in this. The Scottish Lib Dems have NO female MSPs. Again, five white middle class males. They threw their only female MSP under a bus at the last election.

I have many reasons for disliking the Scottish Greens in general and Wightman in particular; none of them are silly.

I'm not a Holyrood "wonk", whatever that might be. Wightman is the author of 2 very successful books (Who owns Scotland and The Poor have No Lawyers) both of which are permanently on display in the Scottish section of Waterstones. I think anyone with even a smattering of interest in Scottish politics would have come across him.

I don't recall him expressing any particular interest in , or speaking about, green issues. The wilder fringes of the SNP would be a more natural fit but I suppose Sturgeon wouldn't want him.

Dollar Academy isn’t exactly Eton. There’s a bit of silly and irrelevant bashing here from people who clearly dislike the Greens for other reasons.

Also, nobody but Holyrood wonks knows who Wightman is. Most people would struggle to name a Green MSP other than Harvie or perhaps Chapman.

Dollar Academy (near Stirling?)

Thing is, I actually rated Andy W. He seemed unusual in that he was capable of independent thought.

A friend told me yesterday he was at an event in the Scottish Parliament on free speech last month. Irony klaxon.

Is Wightman privately educated? He is quite the Trot these days, along with "land reform" he is taking pot shots at private schools, including the excellent one my son was at.

The Scottish Green MSPs:

100% white
5 out of 6 are men
One third are privately educated (Andy Wightman and Mark Ruskell)

Surprise, surprise: they also support full decriminalisation of 'sex work'

Me? I wouldn't have touched the Green Party with a barge pole even without this

No. Not you

If you are still a member it may be worth reaching out privately to others you know

Me? I wouldn't have touched the Green Party with a barge pole even without this.

Because a member of their baby furry family is in Scotland.

This. Aberdeen to be precise.

twitter.com/Feefers/status/596019489071898626

Why would Challenor be in the Scottish Greens?

The Green Party (Scotland) is a stand-alone distinct political party from the Green party (England and Wales). Although AC left the Green Party of England and Wales, there's nothing to stop her joining the Green party of Scotland.

Patrick Harvie, the co-convenor of Green party of Scotland, and a bi-sexual man, gives the impression that he has a problem with women. His replies to letters from scottish women are dismissive, patronising and curt. He has no time for them and makes his attitude plain.

He is a patron of Parents Enquiry (Scotland). It set off as a support group for parents of Lesbian and Gay children, with help from Stonewall. It has broadened its remit (suprise, suprise) and runs a help-line for the parents of trans children - which sounds ominous, if the parents are receiving Mermaid-type affirmation advice.

With friends like Patrick Harvie, there is a ready made avenue for recruiting trans children and their parents. The last thing this elitist, mens' rights politician wants is for some troublesome women asking questions, I should think.

You know what? Instead of saying "No debate", they are just saying "No transphobia". It's the same thing, they're still just silencing people.

Given that trans currently has every protection which could be described as legitimate, the only thing "trans exclusionary" means now is that women don't want penises in our showers and on our sports teams.

Is there anything else to be said? Except maybe, the people at the top must be taking in some heavy duty cash under the table, for any of this to be happening.

Why would Challenor be in the Scottish Greens?

No idea..
To expand their political options? Because a member of their baby furry family is in Scotland. I believe they were also a member of the NI greens.

As an aside, sources suggest that other women in the party are far from happy with the motion. If you are still a member it may be worth reaching out privately to others you know.

Why would Challenor be in the Scottish Greens?

So far as The Scottish Greens regardless of trans issues there are plenty of reasons not to vote for them.

Although according to their twitter bio they have left that too.

Is Aimee Challenor still a member of the Scottish Greens?

I think they resigned as they are now a member of the LibDems and you can't belong to multiple parties. Although I think they may still be a Global Greens member?

If you can't accept that Jacinta Brooks is a woman, you're a transphobe and unwelcome in the Greens, then.

I'm grateful to them for clarifying that for me.

The Greens everywhere must be haemmorhaging members? They'd be my natural home if they weren't batshit crazy.

I wish that the "TWAW" brigade would stop polluting good parties and start their own TWAW party.

That’s not how entryism works though.

It’s like asking cuckoos to build their own nest.

Is Aimee Challenor still a member of the Scottish Greens?

I wish that the "TWAW" brigade would stop polluting good parties and start their own TWAW party.

But of course, they won't. They know nobody would buy it.

The Scottish Green Party is an extreme, hard left, separatist party. I have no idea what its actual green policies are; they rarely mention them.

Its most vocal and prominent MSP is Andy Wightman who talks about nothing other than "land reform", which is simply class warfare.

The SNP minority administration need
Green Party support to stay in power.

Labour also have a similar policy - stating that transwomen are not women is against party rules.

On a recent thread, a member of the Liberal Democrat 'Radical group' expressed the same ditkat. They also added that they (personally?) did not want any votes from people who did not agree with the assertion. 'transwoman are women. transmen are men, non-binary people are legitimate and real' which they deem transphobic, ignorant and bigoted:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3399104-Times-Lib-Dem-trans-activists-hounded-abuse-victim-Natalie-Bird-Article-refers-to-Zoe-OConnell-Sarah-Brown?pg=9