Attitudes to Gender - a survey being used to write a new gender bill in the UK

The questionaire is bollocks because it conflates sex and gender but then so does real life. When I was born my sex was recorded and shows on my birth certificate. But if I decide I'm a bloke I can get it changed to match my gender id But my sex hasn't changed. So which is it supposed to be? Sex or gender?

I can't answer the questions because I don't know what they mean when they say gender, maybe they mean gender in which case my answers are one thing, but maybe they mean sex in which case my answers are different! Utter tripe.

I answered them and put in the comments bit that 'I am guessing you mean sex by this question as 'gender has nothing to do with it' and that. Or pointing out that if they do mean gender, my answer is the opposite.

Single-gender organisations must accept anyone who self-identifies with the required gender.

Women's organisations should have more freedom to decide who is a woman where they are tackling women's disadvantage.

These questions are utter bollocks, as are most of them. On the list of protected characteristics, they have replaced sex with gender. I hope this is not being used to write a new gender bill! Its bollocks. And whoever wrote it seems to not actually understand sex and gender. And seems to think gender overwrites sex..

donkey86
Filled it in. Got really quite cross doing so. Relieved my crossness by using the final box to tell them just what I thought of their survey
Me too.

Does it help if you identify as non binary when you do it

Also can they see where you have arrived from (ie mumsnet) and filter you out

This took me nearly an hour and a half, and was so fucking annoying. They noted at the start that sex and gender are different things, yet throughout the questionnaire they used gender where clearly they meant sex, constantly so I pointed it out each time. And in the do you have anything else to say bit at the end, I said again that it seemed gender had been use instead of sex on purpose, and asked why. Have also signed up for their other surveys, though they will probably also raise my blood pressure.

Everytime they said 'gender' then said male/female I pointed out how male and female are sex categories and 'gender' is a useless term. And grr at the sex assigned at birth nonsense. And going on about childrens 'legal sex'

First Question: How do you define yourself

Options - Male, Female, Other

Fuck sake. I am female. The word female has its own definition. I don't choose to be female.

What a pile of steaming bollocks. I will complete it later but now I need wine.

Some of those questions are essentially unanswerable. They are either meaningless or I can't tell whether they are talking about sex vs gender.

It might be non binary but it's still bollocks.

Filled it in. Got really quite cross doing so. Relieved my crossness by using the final box to tell them just what I thought of their survey.

Ugh, this madness goes on and on.

Done. You can comment in each section about the conflation of sex and gender so it can be done

Let's all pretend that sex doesn't exist and it's all about the feelz.

I wonder if that will stop the people with dicks from raping, abusing, murdering, pimping, using, etc etc all those with vaginas? No.

Pretending biological differences between the sexes do not exist is fucking ridiculous.
To define anything by gender, which is changeable and has seemingly endless choices is even more ridiculous.

Off to read other thread

If you did away with biological sex in law, you would surely erase the many protections women (female-bodied people) have on grounds of their sex?

The article on prefigurative law - where it talks about living as if legal change is already happening - is precisely what is happening with self-ID. It is described as anarchist, feminist and left socialist or something. But laws exist for a reason, and many of our current laws, even if we do not agree with them, exist for reasons of protections.
Consent laws, for example, exist to protect women.
Property laws exist to protect your right to a home and your belongings.
Criminal laws exists to protect people from harm.
Laws on maternity pay, maternity care, access to abortion exist to give women protection and rights.
If you did away with ‘legal gender’, there would be no clear way of ensuring many of these protections.

For example, grooming gangs consisting of people with penises (peni?) targeting young people with vaginas? How do you know or describe what is happening? How do you explain sex-specific violence and abuse?

My questions are endless.

There's another long thread about it. Mainly those of us who have done some research in real life were very scathing about it. It is VERY poorly written, is self contradictory in many places and the inconsistent use of language makes some of the questions impossible to understand.

Add to that the internal bias that is highlighted in the outline, the language and the double negatives of many questions I doubt I was the only one who suggested that it wasn't fit for purpose and that whoever passed it for publication should be very ashamed of themselves.

It is not a PhD project, if the two lead investigators are Professors. Which part is the PhD project?

Is n't this what 'Jane Fae' is pushing for as her ultimate end goal in this downright scary thread?

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1052841553364996096.html

Someone doing a PhD wrote that?

Fuck sake.

From the survey site:

What if I am not happy with how the research was conducted?

If you are not happy with how the research was conducted, contact the Secretary of the Ethics Approvals (Human Participants) Sub-Committee, Hazlerigg Building, Loughborough University, LE11 3TU. Tel: 01509 222423. Email: [email protected] .The University also has policies on Research Misconduct and Whistle Blowing, available at www.lboro.ac.uk/committees/ethics-approvals-human-participants/additionalinformation/codesofpractice/.