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"More likely to be homeless, be abused..."

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Ekphrasis · 20/10/2018 08:09

In a conversation on fb:

"transwomen are far more likely to be murdered, live in poverty, be homeless, and be abused then cis women. So its important to put those peoples rights equal to or even above cis women because intersectionality is real."

Does anyone have the correct stats? just so it's etched into the internet

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Mumminmum · 20/10/2018 08:36

They have different life experiences than women because they are not women. Isn't that just another proof that transwomen are not women? (And that they and their handmaidens are not good at reading and evaluating statistics).

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Ekphrasis · 20/10/2018 08:31

I seriously can't post the rest of the post but the cognitive dissonance was extreme.

Including chromosomes don't equal sex.

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Ekphrasis · 20/10/2018 08:30

Thanks I think the murder one is the key one here.

I imagine employment is challenging but it also must be among many different groups. Mental health is probably also a factor.

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MIdgebabe · 20/10/2018 08:27

I think men are also more likely to be homeless

The comparison with women is the invalid point. They are on a par with men and ...well....

DereksSexyPyjamas · 20/10/2018 08:27

The first thing that springs to mind is this: to what extent do those claims also apply to men?

Men are more likely to be murdered than women: it’s a reflection of male violence. Saying that transwomen are more at risk of violence than women is specious reasoning.

MIdgebabe · 20/10/2018 08:26

The only solid data that I have seen on this came from a study in America. Sorry I lost all my links a while back, and need to go out soon, so leave it to reader to google. They concluded that the murder rate etc was higher for transwomen, but only because so many were taking part in prostetutiom, the murder rate for prostitutes being fairly even across transwomen and women.

There may have been a discussion ( or it may have been a different study) about why so many were prostitutes and it may have concluded that their reason was different. Less likely to be desperation. Although I think insufficient data may have been a problem for that.

Note also that the uk data shows that men are more likely to be murdered than women, there is absolutely no evidence in the uk that transwomen are murder at a higher rate than men, which is the more valid comparison to my mind.

continuallychargingmyphone · 20/10/2018 08:11

Interesting.

I imagine employment is harder and this can lead to other problems.

So why are we presenting it to children as so harmless and so fluffy?

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Ekphrasis · 20/10/2018 08:09

Missed out murdered in the title, that was the key one!

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