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Trans activists smoke bomb protest the metro

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Bonions · 19/10/2018 17:35

Jim Waterson
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Trans activists have set off smoke bombs outside the entrance to Northcliffe House, HQ of the Daily Mail/Metro/Independent. Unclear if they're protesting against the Mail - or the Metro taking the advert last week - but staff leaving by side entrance.

Consensus seems to be they're protesting against The Metro, which took an anti-trans ad last week. Unfortunately Metro print edition staff don't work Fridays. (The entirely separate Metro website has also had some trouble over the sister paper taking the ad, apparently.)

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AspieAndProud · 19/10/2018 20:09

Wasn't it? We're good!

The clever bit was how they prevented the genuine TRAs from attending by painting a tunnel on a brick wall and tricking them into running into it like Wile E Coyote.

AspieAndProud · 19/10/2018 20:06

On smoke bombs and other fireworks at sporting events:

Written evidence submitted by Live Nation (SC 13)

1. Introduction

1.1 On 7th January 2015 the Scrutiny Unit of the House of Commons invited interested parties with relevant expertise and experience to "Have your say" on the Serious Crime Bill by submitting their views in writing to the House of Commons Public Bill Committee, which is scheduled to consider the Bill between 13th – 22nd January.

1.2 This submission has been produced in response to that invitation on behalf of Live Nation. Live Nation is one of the world’s leading entertainment companies and the world’s largest promoter of live music concerts. We have extensive experience of the live event industry and the challenges and requirement of managing events. Our submission concerns the issue of the increasing use of flares, fireworks and smoke bombs at concerts and live events.

2. Context of our submission

2.1 Flares, fireworks and smoke bombs are dangerous when used inappropriately. Flares – often manufactured for legitimate military, maritime or transport purposes – can burn as hot as 1,600°C for as long as an hour. Any burns caused by a flare are likely to be extreme. Fireworks can be equally dangerous, with a simple sparkler burning up to 2000°C and rockets travelling at up to 150 miles per hour. Smoke bombs can also burn at high temperatures. They are designed for use in open spaces and can be dangerous in confined spaces for those with asthma and breathing difficulties.

2.2 It is very difficult to extinguish pyrotechnics once lit because they often contain burning metals. Even after they stop burning, they will be too hot to handle for some time and could still set fire to flammable items like litter. In crowds, flares or smoke bombs cause serious burns, smoke inhalation injuries and panic or asthma attacks.

2.3 Legislation has existed since 1985 concerning the use of pyrotechnics at football grounds. Under the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985 it is an offence for a person to enter or attempt to enter a football ground while in possession of a flare, smoke bomb or firework. The sentence for these offences can be as much as three months in prison, and in many cases, fans who have no previous convictions are given prison sentences for attempting to enter a football ground with a smoke bomb in their pocket as the courts take these offences very seriously. Recently, fans who have been caught at football matches with smoke bombs have been given sentences between 1 and 2 months and banned from returning to football grounds for up to 6 years. This demonstrates the severity with which authorities treat this issue when it relates to football matches.

publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201415/cmpublic/seriouscrime/memo/sc13.htm

deepwatersolo · 19/10/2018 20:06

Yeah, if the point they were making was that they‘re so harmless any fear women might have about sharing their spaces was absurd... that point didn’t really come across, did it?

Ereshkigal · 19/10/2018 20:00

Clever of feminists to carry out this ‘false flag’ operation at exactly same time and place the TRAs had proposed to protest on Facebook.

Wasn't it? We're good!

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/10/2018 19:53

No your are not supposed to feel comfortable, you are supposed to submit to it, massive difference.

EspressoButler · 19/10/2018 19:53

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FermatsTheorem · 19/10/2018 19:51

And these are the men I'm supposed to feel comfortable showering next to? Hmm

MrsFogi · 19/10/2018 19:50

Hopefully we will see some journalists in the mainstream press talking a bit more about how the TRAs have been trying to silence debate on this issue.

picklemepumpkin · 19/10/2018 19:50

They're disputing that it's violence- just people dancing and smiling apparently. Meanwhile people feel unable to get in and out, and the smell of smoke has spread through the building.

Obstruction, preventing people's freedom to move, is aggressive.

Gncq · 19/10/2018 19:48

BesmirchingMotherhood
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Gncq · 19/10/2018 19:46

Someone upthread predicted they would be mad enough to say it was feminists posing as TRA Haa oh my gosh...

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 19/10/2018 19:45

ItsAllGoingToBeFine thanks for the suggestion but it doesn't work. I'll have to ask DS2.

AspieAndProud · 19/10/2018 19:42

India Willoughby on Twitter just now:
"Well what do you know. It’s like a scene from #TheBodyguard. Deadline seeking views on Gender Reform due to close Fri midnight. Hour ago Gov extend deadline to Mon. No explanation. Low and behold “Trans” activists smokebomb attack on Daily Mail. Stinks #GRA GMB"

Clever of feminists to carry out this ‘false flag’ operation at exactly same time and place the TRAs had proposed to protest on Facebook.

Gncq · 19/10/2018 19:42

branded themselves neo-suffragettes
They have been doing this for a long while.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 19/10/2018 19:33

Of course setting off flares/smoke bombs in central London is terrorism. And they're attacking newspapers, ffs. Which is not going to go down well with anyone. The press will rip them a new one, and erstwhile influential allies who fear for their reputations will start backing away.

bitheby · 19/10/2018 19:31

Seen a video now - I'm a bit confused by what looks like a banner advertising Tesco FreeFrom products, and a bloke wearing a dress made of the same material?

I really needed a good laugh after spending 4 hours doing the GRA consultation.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/10/2018 19:31

How do you screenshot Twitter on an android?

Press power and volume down at the same time on my phone

Ereshkigal · 19/10/2018 19:31

No the Canary is a left wing rag.

Theswaggyotter · 19/10/2018 19:30

I wonder if the bbc will cover this....can’t imagine any other group being allowed to get away with this kind of aggressive behaviour. If they do cover it they will likely be pushing ‘both sides are as bad as each other’ which seems to be the main thrust of any bbc coverage of trans issues Hmm

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 19/10/2018 19:28

How do you screenshot Twitter on an android?

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 19/10/2018 19:23

I thought the Canary was an alt-right rag? Either way I wouldn't trust it at all.

But I am pretty sure a smoke bomb in a public place is fairly close to terrorism.

DereksSexyPyjamas · 19/10/2018 19:23

I can see them, Joan

JoanSummers · 19/10/2018 19:23

Hmm I attached images to that..

Trans activists smoke bomb protest the metro
Trans activists smoke bomb protest the metro
JoanSummers · 19/10/2018 19:22

Amazed they haven't branded themselves neo-suffragettes given how much they like to appropriate the female.

:D

Trans activists smoke bomb protest the metro
Trans activists smoke bomb protest the metro
CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/10/2018 19:21

How stupid can you be, every time the TRA's do something it makes them look worse and worse.