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Trans activists smoke bomb protest the metro

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Bonions · 19/10/2018 17:35

Jim Waterson
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Trans activists have set off smoke bombs outside the entrance to Northcliffe House, HQ of the Daily Mail/Metro/Independent. Unclear if they're protesting against the Mail - or the Metro taking the advert last week - but staff leaving by side entrance.

Consensus seems to be they're protesting against The Metro, which took an anti-trans ad last week. Unfortunately Metro print edition staff don't work Fridays. (The entirely separate Metro website has also had some trouble over the sister paper taking the ad, apparently.)

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IdaBWells · 20/10/2018 05:49

NotBadConsidering yes, so typical, men’s real threatening behaviour is overlooked and goes unreported while women having civilized open meetings, which are calm and well organized are demonized. This whole issue has really opened my eyes to how incredibly selective the news media is.

But science, reality and sanity is on our side. We don’t have to twist and change language to express ourselves. We are able to use simple straightforward language to express ourselves that everyone understands. We can use simple regular language to express ourselves because we are describing reality. They have to create new words, new ideology and try and foster the take-up of these concepts upon people who are often confused and baffled by them because they are based partly in an internal fantasy that they want us all to pretend is real.

NotBadConsidering · 20/10/2018 05:32

Probably the most depressing thing is when you google this the top hit is this thread. No one else reporting it.

AngryAttackKittens · 20/10/2018 05:31

So, let me get this straight. Harassing the offices of the Metro and the Daily Mail in a way that could arguably be considered terrorism because people get a bit nervous when they hear shouting and see smoke in Central London, in a media environment in which every journalist remembers what happened to Charlie Hebdo and is aware that it could have been them instead, is supposed to make the papers less hostile towards the group of people who pulled that stunt?

I'd like to refer the group that planned this to Bunbury's "Guide to Effective Political Organizing for People What Don't Think Good".

deepwatersolo · 20/10/2018 05:22

No matter how one judges the severity/aggression/panic inducement potential of this smoke protest, it is clearly way more threatening and aggressive than those protesting women with leaflets, on whom police on horseback was unleashed. To remain proportionate to that, the state would have had to enter tank and watercannon territory...

numberseven · 20/10/2018 03:37

Oh dear. In this post-Charlie Hebdo world attacking a newspaper HQ is really not a good look. But I guess you can do anything when you're stunning and brave?

ALittleBitofVitriol · 20/10/2018 02:26

bluetitsaretits

That is an excellent song.
NO! They don't get to have that song.
Just NO!

Is nothing sacred?!
(I know that the answer is no sigh )

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 20/10/2018 02:18

I’m surprised there was so little reaction. Given the authorities are always on high alert for tertorust activities, I’d have expected these fools to be hauled off in handcuffs.

Given London’s tragic history of bombs, just the fear this inane stunt must have evoked should have been cause for legal repercussions.

Had the bad-wigged lot been black or Muslim men, I’m sure the authorities would have responded with real force.

notangelinajolie · 20/10/2018 01:39

They haven't thought this through have they. Reacting like men with their violence shows their very non ladylike true colours and alienating the DM at the same time really isn't the way to go. Women do not behave like this. I predict a riot it won't be long before they will all self combust in a cloud of mananger and smoke. We don't need to do anything to stop this sillyness they are doing a great job all by themselves.

PersonWithAVulva · 20/10/2018 01:29

A couple of bored cops show for smoke bombing protesters.

Yet 4 officers, one on fucking horseback come for women handing ut leaflets.

Why am I still surprised by this

FadingMint · 20/10/2018 01:27

Threatening behaviour by men. Well well, what a surprise.

Men are not women, fact.

AspieAndProud · 20/10/2018 01:21

Potassium nitrate is the oxidising ingredient of gun powder. Flares also require some kind of fuel to burn, such as sulphur, which is also an ingredient in gun powder. If you can make a flare you can make a bomb.

These were probably bought commercially though, rather than made

miri1985 · 20/10/2018 01:19

I feel so stupid and anyone in that office who felt scared should feel dumb as a box of rocks, apparently they were flares to create "a mood" and apparently the whole thing was "super chill"

Trans activists smoke bomb protest the metro
Trans activists smoke bomb protest the metro
Hamster00 · 20/10/2018 01:10

Ok, so I did a little research on the ingredients of common smoke bombs / coloured flares that are available to buy in the UK - that these idiots could have used. (I know... I have no life).

Two things struck me:

  1. Both contain Potassium Nitrate, which is hazardous both in skin contact and inhilation - note sections 3 and 4.
    www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927232

  2. Also the general consensus from pretty much all major distributors of said items is that a safety distance from object / smoke should be a minimum of 0.5 meters.

Unless this was a "home cooked" device - they can be purchased very cheaply for around £5 a piece from pyrotechnic / fireworks companies.

So excluding the fact these are pyrotechnic devices and have the potential / capacity to "explode" - the smoke they give off in a confined space IS potentially hazardous .

gilchrist168 · 20/10/2018 00:55

Well that's a hoot innit?
Safety flares?
Are they on the Titanic?

FadingMint · 20/10/2018 00:47

Blimey, went off at a tangent there!

Yes, why is this not being reported? Smoke bombs are not harmless.

FadingMint · 20/10/2018 00:43

Women just want our own women's spaces, because of our women's biology, and our safety. dignity and privacy. And we certainly don't want to be always supervised by men wherever we go.

Spasm0dic · 20/10/2018 00:38

Apart from mn im not on socisl media, but im not seeing any reporting of this. I hate to be cynical (or naive) but did it really happen? I would have thought if it did the news would have reported it.

AspieAndProud · 20/10/2018 00:27

That’s above the melting point of steel.

AspieAndProud · 20/10/2018 00:24

If they mean emergency flares they burn as hot as 1,600 °C. There’s nothing safe about them.

PersonWithAVulva · 20/10/2018 00:16

Just LOL at people on twitter now desperately screaming about how these were 'safety flares' not smoke bombs Hmm

bluetitsaretits · 19/10/2018 23:52

Isn't there a Goldsmiths connection or have I remembered that wrong?

JoanSummers · 19/10/2018 23:41

Sisters Uncut excluded women who don't believe in the mantra 'transwomen are women' from their beginning. So not so much with the 'sisters' really.

boatyardblues · 19/10/2018 23:37

No. I abhor toast burning. So wasteful.

bluetitsaretits · 19/10/2018 23:37

I would never deliberately burn toast -that smell really lingers.

yetanotherusernameAgain · 19/10/2018 23:37

Oh I dunno. On my thread about suffragists, suffragettes and violence, some people were adamant they would have been -ettes rather than -ists.