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Debbie Hayton on world at 1 radio 4 today

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Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 13:03

Just heard Debbie is on today.

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DebbieInBirmingham · 19/10/2018 19:27

About to go on LBC

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Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 19:26

(I can't see my emojis; that was gin!)

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Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 19:26

You must be knackered too. Have a couple of 

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Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 19:25

Not your responsibility.

Thank you for excellent points and an excellent essay.

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DebbieInBirmingham · 19/10/2018 19:23

And I regret the sex imbalance today.

DebbieInBirmingham · 19/10/2018 19:21

Yes I'm here. I recorded that yesterday morning. I'm planning to put a transcript on my blog when I get the time. I may add a transcript of the response. It was bizarre.

One interesting statistic regarding GRCs. I've been involved in three BBC features this week with three other transactivists: Bex Stinson, Helen Belcher, Paris Lees. All four of us admitted on air that we have no GRC and it really doesn't matter. Essentially none of us can be bothered to fill out the forms.

It really doesn't sound like something important enough to get worked up about does it? Jane Garvey quizzed Stinson on that point.

Trans activist

placemats · 19/10/2018 18:05

Disgraceful behaviour towards you Debbie.

Flowers

I'm so sorry to read you were treated in such an abusive manner.

pennydrew · 19/10/2018 17:43

Oh I am sorry to read that about Debbie, if you’re reading, I hope you’re ok and have plenty of support.

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Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 17:38

Very sorry to read about Debbie.

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FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 17:38

Third person was top far up they's own derriere to be a lot of use to be honest, but I get your drift...

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Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 17:38

"The hills are alive with the sound of peaking..."

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R0wantrees · 19/10/2018 17:36

I fail to see what the third person brought to the party. Even more self absorbed that the usual boys they wheel put.

I think the third person, the male born non-binary drag queen brought a great deal.

I'm sure many listeners benefited from hearing their comments.

Popchyk · 19/10/2018 17:34

Debbie on Twitter:

twitter.com/DebbieHayton/status/1052902208403070976

"Yes. I suffered an appalling transphobic attack last week from a trans ally who reported me to my employer.

My livelihood is under threat, but it is not under threat from gender critical women."

pennydrew · 19/10/2018 17:27

I just saw Debbie on a YouTube vid ( on Newsnight ) and they were great. Excellent, calm and reasonable but also making sure to get important bits in.

FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 16:35

'Lack of balance, I'm angry'

None responsible for the show available. Cowards!

FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 16:33

R4 - comments

FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 16:22

Probably. Coward custard (to steal a phrase)

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 19/10/2018 16:19

I wonder if tra refuse to debate alongside women?

It was a similar set up on the Victoria Derbyshire prog this morning. The one GC women was on a program but on a pre recording, and not in the studio.

FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 16:16

I fail to see what the third person brought to the party. Even more self absorbed that the usual boys they wheel put.

Shame Debbie was recorded. She would have squished those lightweights.

Sportycustard · 19/10/2018 16:13

I have emailed WATO with a complaint. Disgraceful - not to mention being too little too late

horizonglimmer · 19/10/2018 15:07

That was absolutely appalling. There were so many areas to question Paris and co on, such as the blatantly false equivalence with gay rights and black rights (ie that comparison would only work if anyone was saying trans people were sexual predators, which they aren't. We are saying some males are sexual predators and that is why we need sex segregated spaces).

It was just a cosy chat with trans activists agreeing, huge holes and areas for the interviewer to probe their arguments, yet no challenge from anywhere. Appalling.

ifonlyus · 19/10/2018 15:05

Debbie talks sense. Debbie makes logical arguments. Debbie is awesome. But yeah - where's the female spokesperson here?

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Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 14:34

Considering Debbie spent a long time pointing out there were two sexes and single sex spaces for a reason it was extremely sexist to then not invite or involve a female in the discussion.

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ShotsFired · 19/10/2018 14:12

Available on listen again here: www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0000sdk

ImPreCis · 19/10/2018 14:11

Four men (male born people) discussing the GRA and its affect on women. I’ve emailed WATO to ask for an explanation. I may have mentioned Posies definition writ large on the BBC just last week, and had they already forgotten?

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