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The hypocrisy of Owen Jones & Co

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deepwatersolo · 18/10/2018 14:56

Owen Jones has retweeted Shon Fae who was alarmed that the anti trans hate group (!) FPFW had talked about handing out leaflets to people in the street, including ‚gangs of lads‘.
Owen is anxious ‚where will this end?‘, apparently sharing Shon‘s assessment that this incites violence.

Which makes me wonder: do they actually think, male violence is a thing? If I were on Twitter, I‘d ask them, why they paint men as violent, just because some bad apples, NAMALT and all...
It is funny how they thought all was hunky dory when the (male) TRAs were only confronted with women to harass and beat up, but now that these hateful creatures involve males (also: did they think those blokes would not notice when their mum is in a ward together with a male or their girlfriend is upset about changing room issues? Should men have no say in the GRA consultation? This is all so silly...)

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Freespeecher · 18/10/2018 15:07

'Where will this end?' Some brass neck he's got there. He's been quite happy to incite from the sidelines in the past (without ever getting his own hands dirty).

LangCleg · 18/10/2018 15:04

Well, Sanctimonious Morph does know everything there is to know about these dreggy, plebby chavs you know. He wrote a best-selling book all about it.

It reminds me of the Fabian history with eugenics. Bourgeois people discussing what should be done about the poor while simultaneously identifying as their representation.

I wish they'd just fuck off, frankly. For class reasons as much as anything to do with "gender".

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/10/2018 15:03

x-post, Twisted. You put it better than me.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/10/2018 15:03

Wow.
Shon's claim of 'incitement' seemed really classist to me: if leaflets are being handed out to blokes in a working class area it can't possibly be so that they can fill in the consultation or tell their women family and friends about it, it can only be so they will go and bash some trans people. I am sure he would have not said that if it had been in central Oxford.
But I thought Owen was meant to be alert to issues of working class demonisation, what with his having written a book about it.

NowtSalamander · 18/10/2018 15:02

Can someone who’s on twitter tell me how lil OJ has been feeling today in general? I’ve been thinking about him, as the Guardian have suddenly decided that maybe there is another side to history...Smile

IKeepFlouncing · 18/10/2018 15:01

I can’t be arsed to waste my time asking him, I just got few more people to complete GRA Consultation instead. I feel chuffed Grin

TwistedStitch · 18/10/2018 15:00

Yep. The author of books about the demonisation of the working class is stating that merely the act of speaking to young men on Moss Side about a government consultation is inciting violence. Utter hypocrite.

Pamspeople · 18/10/2018 14:58

He's having a splendid tantrum isn't he?