The hypocrisy of Owen Jones & Co

at Talcum X - I will think of that every time I see him now.

He's actually pretty typical of a certain type of middle class person you get in Sheffield. They live in affluent areas, their lives revolve around the universities, and the only working class people they know are their cleaners, but for some reason they insist on acting as though they are straight up working class Yorkshire folk. They will actually talk about going to certain pubs to 'slum it with the locals'. I am convinced they are who Jarvis Cocker had in mind when he wrote 'Common People'.

It's too late. Owen is on The Wrong Side Of History. love this

He's a cult leader confused as to why the cult he deserves has yet to materialize.

His supposed defence of the working classes for example, he is actually incredibly patronising and deigns to speak for people who are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves. He takes their voice away from them and uses it to promote himself.

Far be it from me to speculate but I wonder if OJ has a case of imposter syndrome. When I saw him giving it loads of attitude on the current affairs show circuit (off the back of Chavs I believe) he looked like someone who couldn't believe he'd been given that kind of platform and he started to believe he'd really earned it. He has since made a career out of putting himself front and centre of any poor huddled masses kind of issue. I wonder if he's cross because he wasn't recruited for this coveted position and had to make do with Trans Liberation Leader instead.

Poor Talcum X, he thinks he's Jesus Christ.

Doesn't it occur to these lefty blokes that for a group of mainly leftwing feminists and trade unionists to be relying on a hard right tory might say something about how the left has utterly failed us?
Just this. I am beginning to despise the left.

His supposed defence of the working classes for example, he is actually incredibly patronising and deigns to speak for people who are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves. He takes their voice away from them and uses it to promote himself.

Exactly this. He made his name identifying as other people's representation and he's always turned nasty when those he presumes to speak for dare to disagree with him.

He's a vile toad.

OunceOfFlounce I would never have believed he could get this so wrong!

He's always been wrong about a lot of things. His supposed defence of the working classes for example, he is actually incredibly patronising and deigns to speak for people who are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves. He takes their voice away from them and uses it to promote himself. The same as he is doing now with women and transsexuals.

Julie Bindel nails it as usual

Ah no. That gif gives me The Rage AAK.

It's actually quite hard for me to take. I've always liked him, and think he's a great explainer of how to look at everyday issues and policy from a left-wing perspective for people who don't have a good grounding in politics. I would never have believed he could get this so wrong!

I remember when Julian Assange was getting called in for questioning, OJ was one of the only left wing people I heard saying rape allegations couldn't just be shrugged off because wikileaks. (There may've been many more but I wasn't very up on current affairs then and it just made an impression on me).

I think he's decided there's a direct comparison between trans rights and gay rights and, as a gay man, wants to fight what he probably decided early on as the same bigotry. Also, he stuck with Corbyn during the coup and was blamed by almost the entire PLP for what they thought would be Labour's demise. He was proved right at the last general election and I think this has just made him really double down and dismiss any doubts/doubters. Plus he's found his people now. For a long time he was the only young, left-of-centre, labour supporting commentator regularly doing the rounds but now he's got people like Ash Sarker and Aaron Bastani to sure each other up in their beliefs and be all 'fuck the haters'.

This is getting crazy long, and sorry for the pop psychology. But just to say I can see how he found himself here, and even understand to a certain extent, but cannot believe the misogyny and lack of critical thinking he's shown. I feel so let down.

This was the one I meant.

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'Doesn't it occur to these lefty blokes that for a group of mainly leftwing feminists and trade unionists to be relying on a hard right tory might say something about how the left has utterly failed us?'

I think the fact they don't shows how much they fail to take women seriously as political beings.

Doesn't it occur to these lefty blokes that for a group of mainly leftwing feminists and trade unionists to be relying on a hard right tory might say something about how the left has utterly failed us?

I don't think it occurs to men like Owen Jones that women are capable of rational thought unless what they're thinking chimes in with whatever he believes this week. It has been striking that he has happily flip-flopped on pretty much every subject he's ever opined on other than the one where he gets to tell women what to think, be and do. He now obviously hates and distrusts the working class man he pretended to champion, his support for Corbyn waxes and wanes like the moon, but being able to give free rein to his inbuilt misogyny has been such a heady drug for him that he's been unable to stop snorting it.

He'd fit in at the Mirror. His twitter feed is often a carbon copy of Kevin Maguire's and their recent coverage of Rachel McKinnon consisted of focusing on the apparent abuse RM had received, and a long quote by RM comparing their treatment to racism. They also ran a story a while ago stating that 3 year olds being referred to gender clinics had the 'condition' of being born in the wrong body.

They have a couple of columnists who have previously been pretty good on women's issues- total silence on the GRA.

Private Eye also nailed his less than perfect lefty right on ness this week re his support for the re launched Tribune which underpaid then sacked three reporters , one of whom dared to reply to LOJ on twitter and was prompltly blocked . Coward .

Who else would employ him? It’s the only leftish paper there is.

Thank you for your support at this difficult time halfeaten, I feel glad to have unburdened myself.

Doesn't it occur to these lefty blokes that for a group of mainly leftwing feminists and trade unionists to be relying on a hard right tory might say something about how the left has utterly failed us?

Who else would hire him at this point, though? Surely he's not that dim.

It's this one AAK. If you click on the link in my post it moves .

pam admitting you have or had a problem is the first step. You're very brave.

Ironically the words I have to describe Owen are all genitalia.

Just seen this on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/kenstringer/status/1052958476559966209?s=21

Has he resigned from the Guardian?? 

Love it. Could he have a turn at that doctor bloke now?

Is that gif of him making air quotes at the idea of women's rights real?

I'm so ashamed but feel the need to confess. I used to think he was cute.

I had no idea.

Oh thank you for posting that James Kirkup tweet.

Owen Jones is a misogynist. We all know this.