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The hypocrisy of Owen Jones & Co

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deepwatersolo · 18/10/2018 14:56

Owen Jones has retweeted Shon Fae who was alarmed that the anti trans hate group (!) FPFW had talked about handing out leaflets to people in the street, including ‚gangs of lads‘.
Owen is anxious ‚where will this end?‘, apparently sharing Shon‘s assessment that this incites violence.

Which makes me wonder: do they actually think, male violence is a thing? If I were on Twitter, I‘d ask them, why they paint men as violent, just because some bad apples, NAMALT and all...
It is funny how they thought all was hunky dory when the (male) TRAs were only confronted with women to harass and beat up, but now that these hateful creatures involve males (also: did they think those blokes would not notice when their mum is in a ward together with a male or their girlfriend is upset about changing room issues? Should men have no say in the GRA consultation? This is all so silly...)

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pachyderm · 18/10/2018 23:22

I have always loathed him preen*

Chavs sat wrongly with me. I'm proper working class by upbringing (not a boast, just a fact) and he got it all horribly wrong, the nuances, the variations - he just treated "the working class" as some kind of undifferentiated mass. And it felt patronising. Michael Collins "The Likes of Us" is a FAR better book on the same subject.

HemanOrSheRa · 18/10/2018 22:37

Oh it's 9.30 tonight cos he's taken an alleged bung from Guardian to stfu over his rumoured departure and so its a holiday tomorrow. A duvet day!

I may not word this very well (working class chav) but I am so angry about Owen and others conflating the gay rights movement with transgender.

Gay people fought for society to accept them AS THEY ARE. Not to accept a lie.

RedToothBrush · 18/10/2018 22:22

Not only did trans people fight for our rights

Huh wat.

Right side of fictional history huh Owen.

Oh it's 9.30 tonight cos he's taken an alleged bung from Guardian to stfu over his rumoured departure and so its a holiday tomorrow.

Who needs to fact check any of this shit now anyway. Just make any old crap up. As long as its got a rainbow ribbon on it no one will question it.

Halfeatentoast · 18/10/2018 22:09

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I think he's decided there's a direct comparison between trans rights and gay rights and, as a gay man, wants to fight what he probably decided early on as the same bigotry.

Oh yes. I see he went further and said this:

Owen Jones

@OwenJones84

This underlines why gay people have a responsibility to speak out in support of trans rights. Not only did trans people fight for our rights, but the anti trans lobby is allied with anti-gay rights politicians who oppose our rights, too.

2:57 pm · 18 Oct 2018

HemanOrSheRa · 18/10/2018 22:07

Red 9.30 is for weekends, not school nights.

RedToothBrush · 18/10/2018 22:01

No no no.

He's a revolutionary rebel.

It's 9.30pm

amandadecabernet · 18/10/2018 21:31

' Naughty pickle!' Grin

HemanOrSheRa · 18/10/2018 21:19

It's past 9pm so I guess he is tucked up in bed now. Although maybe under the covers with a torch. Naughty pickle!

The hypocrisy of Owen Jones & Co
RedToothBrush · 18/10/2018 21:16

He's keeping it real by getting mummy to tell off the nasty people instead

RedToothBrush · 18/10/2018 21:15

At least its not his nanny I suppose.

Pamspeople · 18/10/2018 20:54

I hope she helps him in to bed and reads him a soothing story instead, he's clearly overtired and needs to turn the computer off now, Owen.

SPOFS · 18/10/2018 20:42

I wonder if his mum will tell us all off for making fun of him, as she did Julie Bindel...

ouda · 18/10/2018 20:29

Owen has always been on the wrong side of history.

Illuminating thread here about what Owen Jones - who claims to stand up against anti-Semitism whilst happily sharing a stage with vile anti-Semites like Ewa Jasiewicz - got up to at Oxford:

twitter.com/NudderingNudnik/status/987090024700182528

In some ways, the most revealing bit of this thread is not even Owen's early obsession with attacking Israel and Jews and bigging up Hamas and...er...Lenin, but the lovely bit of narcissism, by which he edited Wikipedia to make it clear that the great left-wing journalist Paul Foot was educated at Owen's own Oxford college (yes really. Vom).

amandadecabernet · 18/10/2018 20:28

LizzieSiddal I don't know who coined this clever moniker but I first saw it in one of Lucy Masoud's tweets.

Pamspeople · 18/10/2018 20:24

It must be bloody annoying when you base a whole career on speaking up for the marginalised and voiceless only for said voiceless to ask you to stfu

Genuine lols Grin

RedToothBrush · 18/10/2018 20:22

His entire life is a bloody povvo safari.

ROFLMAO!!!

RedToothBrush · 18/10/2018 20:21

Has he resigned from the Guardian??

Resigned eh?

Really?

  1. If Owen Jones had resigned on principle do you think he would
    a) shout loudly about it, and how principled he is and how awful the guardian is
    b) not say a peep on twitter about it.

  2. If Owen Jones has been let go quietly do you think he would
    a) scream about the injustice of it on twitter
    b) not admit it, as he'd have to explain why he had been let go, and he wanted to perserve his reputation and career
    c) get a load of rumours going about how he had resigned and start a conspiracy about it.
    d) agree that his continued presence at the Guardian was no longer in either party's interest and leave by mutual agreement, probably with a payout to keep his big fat trap shut publically.

  3. If Owen Jones still works at the Guardian do you think he would
    a) stir the shit at The Guardian because his ego thinks the Guardian needs him more than he needs them.
    b) tow the Guardian line and reign it in.
    c) double down and think that he can be even more controversial publically because his ego wont let him back down. (and risk the guardian telling him to fuck off).

What Would Owen Do Folks?

I said it earlier today: The Guardian's shift in editorial line, puts Owen's future at the Guardian in doubt. If they are looking to restore trust and reframe themselves in a certain way, can Owen Jones be part of that? Can Owen Jones remain part of their economic and cultural framework.

Owen knows this.

Its just a question of when and how in my opinion.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 18/10/2018 20:12

It must be bloody annoying when you base a whole career on speaking up for the marginalised and voiceless only for said voiceless to ask you to stfu because you're totally misrepresenting them. Poor lamb, I'm not surprised he's getting wound up.

Materialist · 18/10/2018 20:06

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HemanOrSheRa · 18/10/2018 20:04

I've been waiting for him to piss off since telling us all that watching porn is fine, so what?! Little twerp.

Posie Parker is live on FB by the way Smile.

howlsmovingcastle84 · 18/10/2018 20:02

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed
As a former Sheffield dweller-that is very true!! :-)

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 18/10/2018 19:57

His recent tweets really are starting to sound quite deranged

I think he needs a holiday

LizzieSiddal · 18/10/2018 19:54

Talcum X Grin

amandadecabernet · 18/10/2018 19:49

AngryAttackKittens I want to needlepoint that and frame it and send it to him for Christmas. :)

LangCleg · 18/10/2018 19:42

His entire life is a bloody povvo safari.

Honestly, I really wish he would just go away.