BBC2 Politics Live TODAY, 18 Oct

Wait, an actual women discussing issues that affect women? And not male people saying that there are no issues that affect women?

And this on the night before the consultation closes. The BBC really are quick off the mark, eh?

No doubt that there will be a male person or two on hand as well in order to achieve "balance".

Just a heads up- Kathleen Stock is on Newsnight tonight.

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Related thread about Cohen and Pink News

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3390910-Can-we-talk-about-Pink-News-Collecting-examples-of-their-propaganda?pg=1

Can't wait to see who they get on to counter the TRA side tomorrow.

What's the betting it's a feminist of the Una Mullally persuasion.

A good point was made above that the film didn’t really cover the issues, only the difficulties the women had had in meeting. And tomorrow we get the trans side.

I help out at an animal shelter and we never get this kind of nonsense with the dogs and cats. They just are what they are. People could learn a lot from them!

And - "oh in a prison - yeah"

Yeah - lets not bother about the safety of those women - they're in prison. Criminals.

I think I love your dad, Lorettasbox.

I wasn't looking at the screen when she introduced Benjamin - but as soon as she said the name, I knew it would be him. Why was he on there? They said at the beginning that "today we'll be discussing the women's issues, tomorrow we'll be looking into the trans issues" - so why the fuck did I have to listen to a fucking MAN telling us women don't matter- YET AGAIN ??

And yes, the smirk over the woman nearly killed in the boxing ring - the belittling of the dangers to women of men identifying into women's sport - just disgusting.

Oh, and Cohen's air quotes around 'sex'.

Give me strength.

Theresa Villiers, NoRun. Who not that long ago said she'd once been groped by the organiser of a Conservative event (in the context of #metoo). You'd think she'd have a bit more nous and think things through, wouldn't you? But no.

My dad just texted me and said

after a lot of thorough self assessment have decided for the rest of the day I shall be known as a drainpipe and will demand to be recognised by travis perkins

There was some shocking footage in that film from the Woman’s Place meeting in Bristol and of Maria MacLachlan being beaten up and none of the panel condemned the treatment of these women who just want to meet and discuss the potential impact on women’s rights. The focus was on the horrible ‘transphobes’ (I’m so sick of that word).

I didn’t like what Camilla Tominey said at the beginning of the programme about Brexit but thought she was awesome during this section. And I was so frustrated with the two men trying to shout her down. I’m normally a big fan of Femi but can see he’s woker than woke where this issue is concerned.

I’m off to live on a desert island.

There is never any sense on the TRA side. Ever. Just minimising facts, repeating falsehoods and portraying women as being unreasonable and overreacting.

Those tactics won't work forever. Bit by bit the truth is emerging.

The film was reasonable. Cohen actually rolled his eyes to the ceiling when sports were mentioned, and he shrugged when he said 'prisons'.

Pink News guy came across as a nasty, misogynist piece of work. Woman in green was awesome. Film was a muddle and didn't make it clear what the issues were, but the women came across as sincere and not hateful.

Argggggghhhhh!!!!!!
Mansplaining yet again.

Theresa Villiers couldn't sit on the fence more if she tried.
This

Bother - only caught the last 2 mins. Who's the waffly MP?

"There are 263,346 Jews in England and Wales according to the last census although due to the voluntary nature of the question on faith and under-reporting, the Institute for Jewish Policy Research estimates that the actual figure is 284,000."
Source: www.bod.org.uk/jewish-facts-info/jews-in-numbers/

Ben Cohen is deeply, deeply unpleasant. No one could not see that, whatever their beliefs on this. I'd be embarrassed to have such a nasty piece of work speaking for me.

Theresa Villiers couldn't sit on the fence more if she tried.

Bag of shite, and the MP in pink was useless.

Same old same old BBC bollocks.

Honestly that was frustrating. It's always men saying we should be kinder etc etc...

Also very pleased that the ex guide leader mentioned respecting everyone's rights. Allowing transgirls into guides is not respecting my daughter's rights not to share a changing room with a male body? It's not respecting her rights as a 13 year old who's shy and conscious of her changing body.

Camilla Tominey, of the Telegraph. She is spot on. Ben Cohen is very muddled. And he actually smirked when Camilla mentioned a woman being almost killed in the boxing ring by a transwoman. That was really unpleasant.