Emma Watson, supposed feminist. FFS

JKR needs to have a quiet word.

Yes, exactly.

I'm never quite sure why some think we should fawn over the opinions of people who make their living saying words written by other people.

I mean sure, Hermione was pretty cool, and Belle was the first Disney Princess who was bookish, but what exactly distinguishes Emma Watson as a high profile 'Feminist' beyond her self identification?

'Trans rights are human rights' is right, of course, but it's a loaded statement now when people are pointing out that the rights demanded will negatively affect women's rights.

Looks to me like Emma is still doing what she does best - saying someone else's words without needing to engage any original thinking herself.

I agree with her that Trans rights are human rights, but she is not getting how Mermaids et all are trying to trample over women's rights at the same time.

Before I got involved, educated and organised - I totally would have understood and supported the T-shirt and the claim, I still do TBH.

My issue is not and never has been about Trans rights, and will never be about the subjugation of Trans rights. My issue is trans rights that undermine and remove my rights.

So - at face value - I support her T-shirt.
The problem is she is being "educated" by the incredibly disingenuous TRA brigade.

I am going to be kind () and say a lot of clever and informed celebrities treated Kids Company as if it was wonderful amd absolutely sacred. No one is immune to getting caught up with something which, if they engaged their brains just a little bit, they would see was very foolish. It's not really that long ago that I'd have looked at that photo and thought 'great! How inclusive. The world needs to be kinder.' A lot of women here would have done so too.

I bet Emma would get it if she sat down and actually read more about Mermaids. I say give her time. We just need to keep showing women like her politely (or not!) and firmly that the emperor has no clothes on.

Trans rights are human rights.

And rightly so.

However...

Women's rights are Women's rights.

And not the same thing.

Women's rights are also human rights but they also occupy a unique space.

But Trans rights are not Women's rights.

And TW don't need Women's rights what with them being based on biology they don't share.

TM already have Women's rights based on their biology.

Its Kids Company all over again. High media profile, loved by luvvies, and disappears in a stench of smoke.

I bet it's because she watched butterfly.

Bless.

Trans rights are human rights and rightly so.

I'm confused as to what rights (not wants or courtesies) trans people don't currently have.

I'm also confused as to how allowing self ID is going to prevent transphobic attacks from violent, usually homophobic, males, who I'm fairly sure most actual transphobia comes from.

Emma’s going to look very foolish when the shit hits the fan over Mermaids.

Er... what? Isn't 'trans rights are human rights' a gender critical viewpoint? I don't think she's terribly well-informed.

I would love to get Emma on here for a webchat and see her justify that. See her have a good debate with the posters on here.

What 'human rights' does she believe trans people don't have.

Good girl, Emma < pats head >

She will think it's a lovely sparkly organisation that helps sad children.

Ah - I didn't see that she'd also @'d Mermaids. Ok - no defence. She's woefully ignorant.

Oh god, she @ mermaids? 🙄 I bet she has no idea what kind of organisation it is.

First reaction was irritation and disappointment. On reflection, the statement isn't actually controversial. I wonder if she could be appeasing? Saying something bland to protect herself against the baying mob.

Of course, even if that's true it's just as bad as wearing a t-shirt saying 'trans rights are women's rights'. Because if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

We live in hope that tomorrow it will be female rights are human rights

Meh. Trans rights are human rights. Women’s rights are human rights. They’re not the same thing, however.

It is a shame because she is influential for a generation or two of girls and women, and virtue signalling is really annoying. But hopefully she’ll engage some critical thinking skills at some point....

Getting confused with Justine tweeting the Guardian article there - different thread

Oops - sorry, wrong thread!

She may have been @ing Mermaids because Mermaids have not stopped @ing her on the issue.