Is this an about-face from The Guardian?

Well nice to be portrayed as if we are not actually evil for a change.

Well, I am still very skeptical about the Guardian. Who knows what's coming up next in their paper. But this piece is heartening, because my friends are all Guardian readers (just like I used to be). So hopefully at least they can read this and see the question is a complicated issue with clear competing rights.
That is always the first step to re-engaging critical thinking.

How refreshing!

I’m starting to think we just might somewhere.

This bit especially heartening

Any new law must not give violent or controlling male prisoners a new opportunity to dominate women by changing gender and transferring to a female prison.

Absobloodylutely

It's quite a good piece - imho

but the debate is only 'toxic' because the mainstream media ignored it for so long. This article has only been written because of the discussions on the much-maligned social media, the political campaigning of Fair Play for Women, and the guerilla campaigning of Posie Parker...

and of course the efforts of all the good folk of mumsnet...

I salute you!

LOJ has spontaneously combusted.

Ova - absolutely agree about Cologne. This isn’t a one off - it’s years and years of misogyny. They are steeped in it

I won't be going back to reading or buying the Guardian anytime soon.

GRA debate aside I still haven't forgot about Cologne.

I wonder if they were very happy to go along with the woke virtue signalling, but have suddenly wised up to the fact that this law is in danger of going through. And, if you engage your critical brain, anyone can see it stinks.

Endorsing it, as they have done, is going to be an awkward position for a newspaper to defend.

"trans women and other women"

In case we forgot, women now come second in a word string after the adjective "other".

Also, fuck this male-violence-shielding passive voice :

"The debate has become toxic, with trans rights activists and some feminist campaigners taking opposing sides."

The cowards couldn't say one single word about the barrage of threats and climate of fear the mostly male transgender activists have been fostering, opting instead to intentionally let violent men avoid responsibility for what their actions have done to freedom of speech (men's and women's) and freedom of assembly (women's).

Women have NEVER tried to stop transgender activists from meeting, not with words, not with threats, not by putting on masks and physically blocking them, not by harassing venues to drop their bookings.

Erasing male violence and positioning "trans women and other women" as equally opposing sides makes it out to be a catfight between women more than the one-sided male terrorism it has been.

What a bunch of utter cunts. They refuse to engage [and in fact one of their (disgraceful) journalists actively attacks and abuses women] until it’s obvious that they are standing on the outside looking in. The Guardian was always my paper of choice, it ain’t now. DH has also cancelled his subscription. They need to do alot more grovelling.

That's a really thoughtful, carefully written and researched article. Someone at the Guardian is actually thinking about this.

If you cancelled a subscription to The Guardian after years of bias I’d give them an equal amount of time before considering renewing it.

For once the phrase "too little, too late" is apposite. It's too late because it doesn't recognise the full horror of what's gone on and the abuse women have received, and too late because the deadline is Friday and they have done absolutely nothing in the preceding months to inform their readers.

I have a feeling they've had a look at the Times' revenue increasing, then their own donations dipping, then their hits going down as fewer feminist vagina people are around to be put in the stocks of their comments section and get missiles hurled at them by MRAs, causing the MRAs to dwindle for lack of 'sport'....

Perhaps sales and clicks had started to be affected and they were looking increasingly isolated.

But perhaps too little too late. If they are effectively talking about single gender spaces it sounds like they are trying to avoid criticism for avoiding debate, without actually changing their approach.

Woah. Wow. THE GUARDIAN acknowledges that there is an actual rights conflict going on? It makes me feel almost like I can breathe again

Too late for me. Once I'm scunnered, that's it.

You realise of course, this means war.

This a transphobic statement and the AWAs won't stand for it. Even with all the 'both sides' shibboleths, any acknowledgement that GC women might have a point is unacceptable.

I expect lots of backtracking and 'clarification' to be forthcoming. And obviously it's too bloody late in the day anyway.

Or possibly that letter signed by all the academics? Who knows? Maybe they just finally woke up to what is actually going on?

Wow.

Its a sign of something, an outbreak of balance?

Surely not!

Well this diehard leftie has certainly spent more £ on the Times than the Guardian over the last year.

Me too! Solidly left-wing, had read the Guardian for 2 decades, and feel so let down by them. I'm now a Times subscriber.

Or more cynically, perhaps they spotted all the women on Twitter and on here saying things like, "I'll never buy the Guardian again"?