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Private Eye takes on Madigan ***MNHQ edited title***

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breastfeedingclownfish · 17/10/2018 14:03

hopefully this is visible

Private Eye takes on Madigan ***MNHQ edited title***
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Waspnest · 17/10/2018 15:58

Why aren't people like Ian Hislop shouting loudly about this on HIGNFY?

Because it's on the BBC.

SwearyG · 17/10/2018 15:53

Yep June that’s about the size of it. Online chatter is that it was mean to have evidence of Lils’s twitter abuse, though of course this not being our first rodeo we knew that without proof we’d be told we were lying or exaggerating.

I was gobsmacked at the chair calling us pathetic. Gobsmacked. My displeasure is going to be noted by all the grown ups sponsoring the group.

They did say there’s a consultation out but I can’t find it anywhere. Helpful.

Ekphrasis · 17/10/2018 15:36

Place marking so my brain can work this out.

JuneOsbourne · 17/10/2018 15:36

Wait a minute. The chair of an event promoting kinder, gentler politics calls someone "pathetic" for pointing out an example of online abuse? They really are trolling us now aren't they?!

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 17/10/2018 15:35

And Lily is a woman.

Lily is not a woman. Lily has never been a woman. Lily will never be a woman. Lily is a transwoman.

Transwomen are not women.

Women do not have penises.

Women are adult human females.

Lottapianos · 17/10/2018 15:34

'Kinder. Gentler. Unless you’re a woman. In which case go fuck yourself.'

Yep, that seems to be about the size of it

Poor little LM must have been so upset Hmm And pointing out LM's mouthfuls of abuse on Twitter was 'pathetic', was it? Why are they so desperate to protect LM at all costs?

DoctorTwo · 17/10/2018 15:34

Nice to see Private Eye take Shilly on. Could not be more deserved.

concretesieve · 17/10/2018 15:33

Nope - you're all wrong Grin

Lily is saying that all Real Women (whether trans or non-trans) are people who agree with Lily.

Contrariwise, people (whatever they say they are or, indeed, identify as) who disagree with Lily are (natch) TERFS. So, presumably, Lily has met more men than women that disagree with Lily. QED Grin

I need a lie-down...

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 17/10/2018 15:29

So when they say a 'kinder, gentler' politics does that translate as: women should be forced to be kind, men / people with penises get to mouth off online as much as they like and call women with evidence based opinions "pathetic" (pretty unkind, no?).

How could they call someone "pathetic" at a launch about being kinder and expect anyone to take them seriously? I mean surely they get that saying this is very, very unkind.

KatVonGulag · 17/10/2018 15:26

And booooooom

They see through the bullshit

Datun · 17/10/2018 15:25

So let me get this straight.

Madigan calls women terfs.

But that's really women's fault, hence them claiming that word themselves, rather than it being applied to them.

Which is making Madigan look bad by mistake.

And that's transphobic.

So the women are terfs after all?

OvaHere · 17/10/2018 15:18

Kinder. Gentler. Unless you’re a woman. In which case go fuck yourself.

Now they have dropped 'Acceptance without Exception' this could be Stonewalls new tagline.

SwearyG · 17/10/2018 15:16

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sawdustformypony · 17/10/2018 15:12

Terfs are more likely to be men?

Where's that come from?

It's try to defusing the situation isn't - kinda twocking the ball into the long grass. Men are more likely to shrug the shoulder with a laconic 'whatever'

VickyEadie · 17/10/2018 15:11

That's gold, that is. "Who knew that feminists were mostly men"?

LM - putting the 'REALLY not very bright" into 'not very bright'.

NopeNi · 17/10/2018 15:08

I don't get it though. People know how crazy this whole thing is and it gets one tiny satirical column somewhere? A couple of winks and nudges to those in the know.

Why aren't people like Ian Hislop shouting loudly about this on HIGNFY?

LorettasBox · 17/10/2018 14:58

I've expressed sympathy for Madigan in the past, given that they appear to be being manipulated by others. But this isn't manipulative, it's just spectacularly dim. I'm beginning to be astonished Madigan has the wit to log in to Twitter at all in the first place.

DereksSexyPyjamas · 17/10/2018 14:54

Hang on a minute... does this mean the real problem is men not accepting transwomen into their spaces? Shit, maybe Madigan’s onto something here

pennydrew · 17/10/2018 14:52

Right. So why do they keep attacking Mumsnet and accusing us of transphobia if apparently it’s mostly men and women support them? 😬

Mxyzptlk · 17/10/2018 14:48

Creating confusion so that the general public, who aren't paying close attention to all this, have no idea what's going on.

KatherinaMinola · 17/10/2018 14:45

Desperate and awfully dim.

DereksSexyPyjamas · 17/10/2018 14:38

JFC. Such a plainly ridiculous, easily misproven transparent lie. How desperate must Madigan have been to pull that one out.

QuentinWinters · 17/10/2018 14:35

Lily's logic hurts my head
I bet this thread goes "poof" but good to see private eye have noticed the crazy

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 17/10/2018 14:32

Here’s the original for you all. Private eye are going for it

Private Eye takes on Madigan ***MNHQ edited title***
Datun · 17/10/2018 14:25

It's also a bit much to say that women are 'claiming' Terf. 🤣🤣