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Labour party promoting Stonewall

87 replies

StuntNun · 17/10/2018 12:56

This tweet from the Labour Party is recommending people complete the GRA consultation following Stonewall's guidance. I'm astounded.

OP posts:
DaisyTwirl · 17/10/2018 16:28

Bonions - from wiki:
(it appears that Tories had a free vote, all other parties were whipped)

"...Support for the bill in the House of Commons was split broadly down party lines. At both the second and third readings (i.e. before and after amendments), all Labour Party, Liberal Democrat, Plaid Cymru and Scottish National Party votes were in favour of the bill; all Ulster Unionist and Democratic Unionist Party votes were against. Conservative Party MPs were split on the issue, and the party leadership did not issue a whip mandating MPs to take a particular stance on the bill, instead allowing its MPs a free vote.^ 25 Conservative MPs voted in favour and 22 against the bill at its second reading, and 20 voted in favour and 39 voted against the bill at its third reading. Less than half of the Conservative Party's 166 MPs participated in either vote.^.."

nellieellie · 17/10/2018 16:26

I am just so disappointed by this. Voted Labour my entire life, never again.

BrickByBrick · 17/10/2018 16:25

I'm not a member so no resigning possible but I can certainly mention that I am incoming and a voter at every election.

Bonions · 17/10/2018 16:18

I've seen on twitter that there was a 3 line whip for labour to vote for the 2004 GRA - haven't verified this though

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 17/10/2018 16:12

Have you ever seen the old TV movie 'v'?

About alien lizards who come to earth peacefully and replace high ranking people to gain control of the planet?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 17/10/2018 16:11

Fuck off, Labour.

Especially you, Jeremy Corbyn.

Datun · 17/10/2018 16:10

I don't understand why they would do that. What's the upside?

The vast majority of the voting public don't agree with it.

theOtherPamAyres · 17/10/2018 16:10

The people who need to be worried are the members of the local constituency parties.

Their whole purpose is to get candidates elected to Parliament and local councils. They are the volunteers who fundraise, deliver leaflets and turn up on the doorstep (in marginals and 'target to win' seats).

The Labour Party has chosen to be divisive. It has picked a side, instead of mediating in a balanced way.

I am going to email my Labour CLP, if the Labour Party fails to draw attention to the one-click FPFW submission, before the cut-off date.

Badstyley · 17/10/2018 16:09

I quit my membership a few weeks ago,so sadly, I can’t storm off in a huff again. Labour are a disgrace.Even the odious Tories aren’t plugging this shit. It’s sad that our best chance of getting this thrown out is a Tory revolt. I certainly won’t be voting Labour again, I’d never vote Tory, LDs and Greens are a travesty so I guess I won’t be blunting the polling station pencils with my cross for the foreseeable.

user1981287 · 17/10/2018 16:05

they need to be sent this

Mumfun · 17/10/2018 16:05

They have been taken over by the Trans Thought Police. Never voting for them again in current incarnation!

BrickByBrick · 17/10/2018 16:02

I have recently moved house and due to the boundary lines I have a new MP despite only moving a couple of miles. I am now Labour (Tory took the seat in the last election from Labour where I lived previously)

I absolutely will be sending an email especially as he is in the shadow cabinet.

Appalled doesn't even cover it.

Bonions · 17/10/2018 15:58

The comments underneath it are cheering me up. So many people understanding what the issues are.

NoRunAround · 17/10/2018 15:57

Think of the school children if she becomes SoS for Education

Sexnotgender · 17/10/2018 15:53

Labour Party are a bunch of cunts.

Would never vote for them.

NoRunAround · 17/10/2018 15:53

I'm finished with Labour.

NoRunAround · 17/10/2018 15:52

Angela Rayner: I’m looking forward to the #pinknewsawards2018 tonight and I pledge my continuing support and action to my fellow sisters to face down and end the horrible discrimination #ComeOutForTransEquality 🌈
twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1052572377031225349

KatVonGulag · 17/10/2018 15:43

I'm still a member. I'm so pissed off they've done this. They are fucking idiots to ignore what's going on here.

Identity politics will kill the party.

Oldstyle · 17/10/2018 15:09

If you have a Labour MP please please email them today - unless we contact them they will go on thinking they are on the right side of history. Here's my email in case it's useful as a template:

Today the Labour Party released a statement recommending that people complete the GRA consultation using Stonewall's one-click response. I am, of course fully supportive of trans equality. However, Stonewall is not lobbying for trans equality, but for ideological redefinitions of sex & gender, and of the word 'woman'. These matters may seem unimportant, but these changes would do huge damage to society and to women's right to single-sex spaces, services and opportunities. Stonewall have not only refused to discuss women's legitimate concerns but have stated that there is no conflict between trans rights and womens' rights. That is clearly not the case.
I am beyond distressed that the Labour Party have ignored our voices in this vitally important matter.
Please could you let me know your views as a matter of urgency.
Thank you.

gendercritter · 17/10/2018 15:02

This is pretty shocking. The opposition party pushing one particular agenda? How is the consultation going to be fair?

Pywife2 · 17/10/2018 14:53

I sincerely hope my ex-Labour comrades are asked about self ID on the doorstep if there's another general election any time soon. They will have to get up to speed on it pretty quickly and it will serve them right for brushing it under the carpet and not facing up to what's going on.

The worst thing about this tweet, and the promotion of men onto women only shortlists, is that the leadership have bypassed the democratic processes within the party, and not consulted with their members on this.

If they can do it with this issue, they can do it with any. And if they can promote a Pomo load of crap like this, and not see how far from a socialist policy it is, then their political judgement on every issue is questionable.

Also, is John McDonnell a liar or doesn't he know what is going on in the party? Maybe he just thinks we're a bunch of stupid women and he can come on here and tell us anything, we won't notice. Like Corbyn before him, he promised women would be consulted.

theOtherPamAyres · 17/10/2018 14:41

An own goal by Labour.

Every Labour politician must now prepare for recurring questions about their commitment to women, whether on televised Leaders' Debates, hustings, phone-ins, Question Time, at their surgeries or on the doorstep.

Every time the Labour party comes out with a promise to improve the lives of women, they will be laughed at.

Every Labour woman MP will have to justify why they took sides, and thought that handing over women's and girls' rights and safety to men was a good idea.

What a way to win the hearts and minds of voters, Labour Party. Were the corporate supporters of Stonewall standing on your neck or something?

GivenuponHumanity · 17/10/2018 14:25

Why does this shock people? By allowing "self identifying" people to take roles within the party that were designed for the opposite sex their agenda was made very clear. I am so glad I am not a Labour voter

booze2shoes · 17/10/2018 14:02

I left after the Telford Labour thing. This has just confirmed to me that I made the right choice. A lot of my friends in Labour are like, 'what, you're leaving over this?' incredulously. I think it's because people genuinely haven't thought about what it all means and how regressive it is. I am hoping that my leaving may at least spark a debate within my CLP. I'll still vote Labour. I'm very, very angry about this but there is no way I'm missing the opportunity to unseat Philip Davies and there are lots of other issues that matter too (that's not to minimise this.)

Serfisafleur · 17/10/2018 13:52

I'm shocked and simply cannot believe it.
Please more ppl tweet the link to FPFW I'm not on Twitter.