Who has lost your business as a result of transgender debate?

This thread is too funny

The Guardian
The Green Party
Stonewall
Caroline Lucas MP

Birds Eye I have always remained loyal too even through the rocky stages of adjusting to new Captain

Anyone know what the count is on that iPetition Jonny Best started 😉

The businesses and charities that took a side in the debate, when they didn't have to.

They helped Stonewall with its last push to get people to come out for trans so-called equality.

They demonstrated that there is power and money behind the erasure of the word 'woman'.

Grauniad (after being a loyal, paying reader for over 30 years)
Lib Dems, Labour, Greens (would have happily tactically voted for any but not now)
Amnesty, Oxfam, CIN (for their general attitudes to women and the sex scandals)

My poor little liberal-lefty self has had quite a rough ride re-evaluating my loyalties and values over the last couple of years.
To think I have taken out a paying sub for The Spectator!

It would have been the Guardian if I hadn't done it 2 years ago (Cologne NYE) and Labour

Labour party, Green party,Ocado, Tescos, Top Shop, the Brownies, Children in Need, Amnesty.

Bought a lot more Birds Eye, and I now buy two Metros . BBC up for renewal this month, I pay the licence fee for Radio 3 but I don't watch TV.....tricky.

Wardrobe, l have sent you a PM .

Guardian
YHA (I did check their policy on single-sex dorms, they returned a great deal of 'years of experience, welcoming to all' piffle that didn't cover 'Will my teenager daughters be sharing a dorm with male strangers?', so so, the girls can go do something else next summer).

Quite possibly some universities. Will be: asking about shared room policies; checking the loos aren't ALL mixed-sex; having a scan of recent policies on sports and free speech.

Yes, I know it's the DDs' decision, but I do still get asked for advice.

Ocado
The Guardian
YHA

Oh gosh, yes, I have taken out a subscription to the Spectator, I can't believe it has come to this.

Ocado and the Labour Party. Also avoid the Guardian now.

About to take out a subscription to the Spectator...

As above.

I really like the idea of boycotting the BBC too. Could make a huge dent if there was a mass cancelling of TV licences.

They have proved that they cannot be trusted not to be immune to outside lobbying or commercial interests which is one of the main arguments for having the licence fee. Though it looks like they have been got at from within too.

According to this TV licence page there are 25 million licences in force, including students and multiple licences etc.

How many losses would it take to seriously unnerve them?

Hi Ruby, I am a GC Labour Party member but don't know where or who in my local party to go to to discuss this. I've somehow managed to get on to the local Labour party mailing list, as a result I promised to deliver some anti Universal Credit leaflets for them.

I have not contacted my MP yet even as they are too much part of the community-people I know, know them privately and I don't want to put myself in a position where they think I am a bigot.

Your username makes me think that your'e local, which is exiting, or a coincidence. Maximoomoo. I'm really aware of not wanting to put someone in an awkward position but if you are local and Labour would you mind if I PMd you?

Anyway, to answer the question. I am an original Cosmetics To Go user and a real Lushie, but I will no longer be able to buy my Dream Cream! Sob.

I completely misunderstood the title of this thread. As the owner of a small business, I do live in fear of losing my business as a result of all this. I have seen what TRA social media attacks can do.

On topic, I was a devoted M&S shopper for as long as I can remember. No more.

*My guess is they're either general supporters of Stonewall who has used their names without asking in this specific ad, or they have been misled.

I think Stonewall could get into trouble over that tbh. I hope so*

Yeah I think it’s important we clarify directly to with those in the ad. I’ve already contacted ASOS.

Ocado, The Guardian and Observer, Children In Need, Stonewall. Still debating cancelling my Labour Party membership. I am discussing this with other GC local female members who feel as let down as l do. I think l have to do it, it’s painful.

I suspect a good proportion of those names didn't know what this ad was about other than general liberal live and let liveness. Most orgs would stay out of a political argument like this, sit on the fence and not risk customers.

My guess is they're either general supporters of Stonewall who has used their names without asking in this specific ad, or they have been misled.

I think Stonewall could get into trouble over that tbh. I hope so.

This link is a list of companies, organisations, banks etc that apparently agree with the TRAs against the FPFW stance and advert in the Metro.
The list is very revealing and includes the usual suspects as well as new ones, although they may not have been fully aware of what hey are agreeing to.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/10/17/pinknews-stonewall-and-more-back-trans-community-in-metro-advert-after-anti-trans-ad-controversy/?fbclid=IwAR3-aR-aeCvNfFL8C4bAH6odYC5DLGYkXbOemrUlDCj9qvo-ED9CyZAggqs

Ocado. Have already been avoiding Tesco for the best part of 20 years because of all the other ways that they're twats.

Also interested in what Tesco did as quite a bit of our shopping is done there. I would be happy to switch if they are supporting misogyny instead of women.

Ocado. Then Guardian, Labour, and in decreasing order Greens and Lib Dems.

I have no problem with a company saying they support people who are trans. what I have a problem with is anti-woman ideologies.

So an ad saying ‘hey trans customers we love you’ is fine. A company who actively denigrate or harm women, or who support initiatives and policies that do - them I boycott. That includes unisex changing rooms or anyone supporting Self ID.

Tbf some of the orgs in this thread I would not support anyway or stopped supporting partly due to tbe trans issue and partly due to their support for sexual slavery and exploitation of women in prostitution, e.g. Lib Dems, allegedly feminist or leftie groups that use the term 'sex work' uncritically, Amnesty, etc.

Lush, The Guardian, Labour, Lib Dems (voted for both at different times in the past, and sway between them). NSPCC, Children In Need, Stonewall, anything Pride related. Any event or org which says it accepts self defining women, which is quite a bit these days. Several feminist or womens groupd, organisations and blogs inc the f word and back in the day I Blame The Patriarchy etc. Lost respect for countless women journalists etc. Several films and actors I steer clear of so obv won't pay to see. I would withdraw payment of tv licence if I could and I have no respect for the BBC any more. Can't think what else. Anything that I become aware of as promoting the trans agenda.

I wonder how many other women are missing from local events and esp "women's" or feminist events and groups bc they have chosen to advertise as for self defining women? Essentially we are excluded bc we don't want men in those spaces.