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Women should just train harder

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FairfaxAikman · 17/10/2018 10:52

Peak WokeBro stupidity.

Debating the trans issue on FB and a friend of a friend says the biomechanical differences between men and women should be disregarded on the sports field because women are always saying they can do anything a man can so we should just train harder.

The stupid actually burns with this one.

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Turph · 17/10/2018 11:37

Call his bluff - agree that sports should be segregated by height and weight. You'll find all the women and men separated - men are heavier at the same height as they have more muscle and denser bones which weigh more. There will be no eight stone five foot two male runners. Why? All the stuff he just decided was "training".

arranfan · 17/10/2018 11:31

WokeBro 2 believes transwomen "often" have testosterone levels below that of"cis women" 

This is an assertion that can be tested and verified - and, until he does, it can not be accepted as part of a discussion. His belief is not sufficient.

hackmum · 17/10/2018 11:25

Men always say they can't get pregnant. They're not trying hard enough. Fools.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 17/10/2018 11:23

So in the 70s 80s, all the Eastern Bloc female athletes who were forced to take steroids while training had NO advantage?
Why were they stripped of their Olympic medals?

Needmoresleep · 17/10/2018 11:20

Balls...

DD aged 14, used to train 14 hours a week. More than enough, indeed as much as is possible to avoid risk of injury. The boys trained the same amount, but were always faster. No one expected otherwise.

In her sport the Chinese trained a lot more. They went to special sports schools. Word was that their injury rate was appalling and that girls emerged with lifelong problems and no education. Even then they were not as fast as the boys.

FairfaxAikman · 17/10/2018 11:15

And WokeBro 2 believes transwomen "often" have testosterone levels below that of"cis women" 

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arranfan · 17/10/2018 11:11

Apparently they don't have a male body but one that's adapted to allow them to compete with women.

That's a testable fact so until they provide evidence of that assertion, the remainder of their discussion can be discounted/disregarded etc.

FairfaxAikman · 17/10/2018 11:05

Apparently they don't have a male body but one that's adapted to allow them to compete with women. 

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arranfan · 17/10/2018 10:55

Dr Fond of Beetles on why train harder is not an option.

The performance gap between male and female athletes is utterly astounding; it’s not a “gap”, it’s the Grand Canyon. ...

Testosterone, the androgen driving male physical development, is a wonderful hormone. It is responsible for advantageous skeletal features that develop during male puberty, such as increased height, increased bone size and density, longer limbs, wider hand spans and a narrower pelvis, all of which make a 100m sprint or a slam dunk far easier. It also directs hugely increased muscle building capacity, allowing higher absolute masses to be achieved in shorter training times, mass which, by the way, contains a higher proportion of fast twitch fibres (responsible for explosive power) than observed in female muscles. To support this superior physicality, males have greater lung capacity, a higher VO2 max (the amount of oxygen consumed during high intensity exercise), a bigger heart with faster stroke rate and higher levels of haemoglobin, and thus can oxygenate their muscles more efficiently.

Analysis of adult/senior female sporting performances demonstrate parity with males around the age of 15 years old for individual events, and perhaps younger in team sports (22). It’s no surprise that adult female athletes are outrun, outjumped, out thrown and outlifted when males get that all-important surge of testosterone that will propel their development into superior athletes. Testosterone-driven puberty has delivered us athletes like Usain Bolt, Sébastien Chabal and Anthony Joshua. As the original anabolic steroid (prior to steroids, performance enhancing drugs were stimulant or analgesic in nature), and used widely in the 1980s in state-led doping programmes, it has almost certainly delivered us a fair few elite females too.

fondofbeetles.wordpress.com/2018/10/01/harder-better-faster-stronger-why-we-must-protect-female-sports/

ILuvBirdsEye · 17/10/2018 10:54

Train harder, speak softer, smile more, cook n clean more, exist less.... anything else?

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