David Davies MP speaks out about harrassment, calls for stop to GRA reform & urgent review involving women's groups.

I don't think the pressure on Mumsnet comes just from TRA complaining to advertisers.

My research tools are literally : Google. Trying, but it's rubbish. You lot are incredible.

David Lammy, he who argued that prisoners should be housed in the estate of their gender ( not sex) GRA 2004. care to apologise to those women assaulted by KW Mr Lammy?

•Charliethefeminist• it looks more and more like this to me. Also there is a bill proposed by David Lammy I think, making websites responsible for content, that is a real clamp down on free speech. You tube has taken down lots of stuff too.

This Independent article form 2014 details how embedded Big Pharm is:

NHS bosses allowed a lobbying company working for some of the world’s biggest drugs and medical equipment firms to write a draft report which could help shape future health policy. NHS England commissioned a group called the Specialised Healthcare Alliance (SHCA) to consult with patients’ groups, charities and health organisations and produce a report feeding into its future five-year strategy for commissioning £12bn of services.

But the SHCA has confirmed to The Independent that it is entirely funded by commercial “members”. Its director, John Murray, is also a lobbyist whose company lists some of the world’s biggest drug and medical device firms as clients.

Secretariat services to SHCA are provided by a lobbying company called JMC Partners, whose senior partner is also Mr Murray.
JMC Partners’ clients include blue-chip drugs firms such as Novatis, Astro Zenica, Sanofi and Pfizer. It also represents a number of medical device manufacturers and biotech companies who sell their products to the NHS, including Roche Diagnostics, Cyberonics and Bausch & Lomb.

Pfizer does keep popping up....

People have said many times, me included, that the sense is more than totalitarianism, it's Cultural Revolution, Year Zero, Hitler Youth etc. Children bring turned against the parents, threats of removal, the authorities hiding information from families - we can't overestimate the seriousness of these moves.

This.

parents are the enemy

People have said many times, me included, that the sense is more than totalitarianism, it's Cultural Revolution, Year Zero, Hitler Youth etc. Children bring turned against the parents, threats of removal, the authorities hiding information from families - we can't overestimate the seriousness of these moves.

Yes I realised too late JRM isn't a cabinet member

I haven't time to verify all this - this Compilation of Parliamentary Financial Links to Private Healthcare however looks very comprehensive - Fox has links to Pfizer

19. Liam Fox – Conservative MP – became shadow health secretary in 1999 – employs Adam Werrity as a paid intern in 2004 – by this time Adam Werrity becomes a director of health consultancy firm ‘UK Health Ltd’ (now dissolved), while Liam Fox was shadow health secretary of which he and Liam Fox were shareholders. Werrity owned 11.5% of UK Health Group and Fox owned 2.3%. In 2005 a researcher based in Mr Fox’s office worked ‘exclusively’ for the now closed Atlantic Bridge ‘charity’, which Liam Fox was the founding member; Mr Werrity became director, and which had links to radical right-wing neocons in the U.S. The researcher received funding from Pfizer Inc. He claimed ‘she has no function in any health role.’The researcher was Gabby Bertin, who is now David Cameron’s press secretary. Received £5,000 to run his private office in October 2012 from investment company IPGL limited, who purchased healthcare pharma company Cyprotex. tapnewswire.com/2017/01/compilation-of-parliamentary-financial-links-to-private-healthcare/

Also, someone has given me a pop up amazon gift card bug. And I won't click on Pink News any more. I don't want their cookies thanks.

Please can someone who knows how, archive this thread. This is a nasty business. Justine deserves a medal.

Thank you so much everyone.

We really should all get burner phones and top up sim cards.

I am pretty sure Teresa May herself is in favour of self-ID.

I wrote to him about this a whole ago (he is my MP). I got a very non-committal reply. Hoping I peak-transed him.

Liam Fox? Didn't he have an issue with a male staffer. Don't think he's homophobic.

Adam Werritty.

If we're going the dodgy bastard angle, Fox sets off my creep radar no end.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/oct/11/hotel-records-cast-doubt-liam-fox

This story was always very odd.

Why would they be pushing this

There is an argument that if children are able to make huge life decisions like changing sex, they are also able to consent to sex.

I think it's more like... just generally confuse and groom the kids into accepting falsehoods such as up is down, rape is love, parents are the enemy, etc. It's all about preventing the kids from respecting or relying on their parents, which makes it easier for the pedos to sweep in.

Every once in a rare while I used to hear a gc person speculate about ties to pedophelia but it only very recently that I started taking that accusation seriously -- and now I can't unsee the connection!

I remember there was a group of trans who were going into schools in america last year, supposedly to talk about consent, and instead they discussed the benefits of anal sex and hiding info from the parents. At the time I assumed it was just another transperson being weird but now... well they DO keep gravitating towards pedophilia don't they?

JRM said something about people with Penises in women's changing rooms is worrying. Don't think it's him.

Liam Fox? Didn't he have an issue with a male staffer. Don't think he's homophobic.

Of course it could be a woman.

Of the current cabinet, and assuming we're talking about a man, my money is on Liam Fox.

JRM is also a staunch freespeecher so unlikely to be a no debater.

I looked up JRM because I thought the same re his investment companies but he has been vocally critical of the GRA. Not hugely but enough to suggest it's not him (unless it's a double bluff thing )

While the Pink News article initially looked like a smoking gun, as usual it appears that their "journalism" is terrible and they've attributed a general DOH statement directly to Hunt.

I'd be looking at the known homophobes very closely, as well as anyone with known ties to the Pritzker family.

70 MP’s have received “donations” or patronage from big pharma

Wouldn't they have to declare that as an interest?

I checked Jeremy Hunt & Liam Fox - and there's nothing. Although Liam Fox seemed to get a £233 from the BBC for QT. And Jeremy & wife have a holiday home in Italy (nice!).

Here's another detailed link about links with big pharm - from DefendourNHSYork 2017

Jacob Rees- Mogg looks like a good bet.

Also interesting snippet that Penny Mordaunt worked for lobbying firm Hanover, where she had a range of healthcare clients.

The money link is usually significant ime

I was musing over Liam Fox too. He opposed same sex marriage I believe. And Wikipedia suggests that he wasn't particularly supportive a gay rights when he was a student. And it has been noted that the T ideology being pushed is homophobic.

It's not a tenuous connection, if you read what Materialist posted upthread.

I'm a little conscious of the tin foil hat stuff - but god, all this influence is coming from somewhere. This is the Tory govt ffs.

Penny M has reportedly stated strongly to Ministers that Self ID must pass because it is the same as the gay debate in the 80s (it's not) and they can't be on the 'wrong side of history' again. She and many others have got this so wrong - the right side of history is never one which involves medicalising kids, and breaking down safeguarding measures.