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Debating the GRA consultation with my DB

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TickledOnion · 15/10/2018 23:37

I though I would test the waters with my brothers. They are fairly woke but also consider themselves feminists.
One asked: “If 200,000 - 500,000 people in the UK identify themselves as some form of trans / intersex and less than 5,000 of them actually have a GRC then something, somewhere, isn't working properly.”

Leaning aside the trans/intersex conflation, how do I answer that?

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TwistedStitch · 15/10/2018 23:53

Ask him why these people can't get a GRC. If it's because they don't meet the medical criteria then why should they be able to get one? If it's because they aren't willing to engage with the process then why should they be able to get one?

The process appears to be working well enough for the people it was designed for- transexuals with dysphoria. If it's keeping out the fetishists, part timers and opportunists that's a good thing surely.

MagicMix · 15/10/2018 23:52

Only if you think that having a transgender identity of any sort should automatically confer the right to change your legal sex. The whole crux of the argument is disagreement on this point.

Yeah if you support Self ID then a system other than Self ID is bad. So what, there are really good reasons to oppose Self ID.

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TickledOnion · 15/10/2018 23:48

Yes. I guess we have no idea of the numbers of trans who want a GRC but are unable to for whatever reason.

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TerfedOff · 15/10/2018 23:47

And another. Even part-time crossdressers.

So really it means that there should be safety in numbers and they should all be safe in the facilities of their biological sex. There's no reason now that there has to be special accommodation made for them.

Debating the GRA consultation with my DB
TerfedOff · 15/10/2018 23:45

Here's an image. Includes pretty much anybody I would think.

Debating the GRA consultation with my DB
TerfedOff · 15/10/2018 23:43

I think you have to say that it's the trans umbrella under Stonewall now that isn't just including actual genuine transsexual people with gender dysphoria which the gra was intended for but now includes drag queens crossdressers and anything else you can think of.

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