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James Kirkup: Coffee House Even our MPs are afraid of the transgender mob

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TimeLady · 15/10/2018 13:58

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/even-our-mps-are-afraid-of-the-transgender-mob/

But the fact that MPs aren’t really talking much about the gender issue doesn’t mean they aren’t thinking about it. They are, and they’re worried.

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Redshoeblueshoe · 15/10/2018 14:47

I have a plan.
Sky want leaders debates.
I vote we go down market.
Let's get them all on Jeremy Kyle.
Then everyone who has preached TWAW can do a lie detector.
Not just politicians but all the other famous people shouting.

sydarthur · 15/10/2018 14:44

Exactly, if they are so frightened to speak surely that should tell them how important it is to speak. A group together could work so well, especially as the issues are so multifareous they could support one another in offering multiple, nuanced positions: sports, prisons, refuges, schools, child protection, Mermaids, sexism... they may not all directly relate to the GRA but they've coming spilling out alongside it. And even on the GRA explicitly they could support each other coming out in offering difderent ideas and solutions to work towards an end goal. This should be about problem solving not battling.

Redkeyboard · 15/10/2018 14:41

So conversations like:

WOMEN: it’s not a good idea to put teenage boys in with guides without telling parents

POLITICIAN: stop demonising trans people

W: we’re not, we’re saying girls need privacy, accidental underage pregnancy goes happen and unfortunately stats show girls are sexually abused by and even raped by boys on occasion

POLITICIAN: stop demonising trans people they receive terrible abuse

W: that’s awful but it’s really not what we’re doing, how can we find a sensible way that looks after all children’s interests

Etc

Redkeyboard · 15/10/2018 14:35

Great article.

I understand people being genuinely frightened to speak up or being strategic.

What makes me really depressed is normally balanced politicians who have only listened to lobby groups like Mermaids and Stonewall and are now closed to looking at critical analyses of the evidence and data they’ve fed them.

GreenGloves · 15/10/2018 14:34

I'm always hearing about MP whatsapp groups, can't they all band together on one of those and come out against self-ID all at the same time?

GulagsMyArse · 15/10/2018 14:14

I get what he is saying, but they do need to do their job, for God sake. All it takes if for a few to speak out and give the rest courage.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 15/10/2018 14:09

They are not alone!