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Butterfly - anyone watching

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:04

Opening sequence got pretty much all the stereotypes in...

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IAmNotInvisible · 14/10/2018 21:57

Anyone notice the subtle change in hairstyle?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:56

And now the skirt to school, because of course girls couldn't possibly wear trousers.

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MrsToddsShortcut · 14/10/2018 21:56

Clunky script alert!!

'If you're not gay, what are you?'

'When people call you He sometimes, I see you flinch'

IAmNotInvisible · 14/10/2018 21:55

My oldest did MJ dance lessons and loved them. Mind you, he also loved trans (music).

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:55

Like fuck would a sister think of her wee brother as her sister. That's one messed up family

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Jodie777 · 14/10/2018 21:55

Lol, in the real world, those two boys would have beaten him up and the girl would have ran away/hid.

LizzieSiddal · 14/10/2018 21:54

Only black actor so far is a bullyHmm

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:54

Also a girl thing obviously - his grandad needs to watch Billy Elliot with him

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NotTerfNorCis · 14/10/2018 21:54

Didn't Jazz think they were gay in a past life? Didn't Jazz get emotional at not being accepted as gay during 'past life regression' hypnosis?

MrsToddsShortcut · 14/10/2018 21:53

Because boys hate dancing. I thought Billy Elliott was a turning point. Apparently not.

colouringinpro · 14/10/2018 21:53

I am totally FURIOUS to hear that are portraying suicide on tv Angry

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:53

And all he want to do is dance...

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MrsToddsShortcut · 14/10/2018 21:53

The third rate drama feel isn't helped by the dreadful title card and awful synth soundtrack. It reminds me of S.W.A.L.K (If anyone remembers that) except Paula Mile was a much better writer.

AbsintheFriends · 14/10/2018 21:52

There's a lot of positive feedback on the #butterfly tag on Twitter though.

I'm not watching but I did have a quick look at Twitter. Much gushing from the usual suspects about turning point... brave and stunning blah blah, but not much from the alternative perspective. I take this to mean that most people have opted for The Cry. Or maybe an ancient 'Allo 'Also on Yesterday.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:51

Now boy has ear to parents bedroom door

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:50

Aaaand now we have child watching Jazz Jennings and realising his true self.

Or

Should we add that to the thing TRAs don't want to point out list?

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PerverseConverse · 14/10/2018 21:50

Pink was originally a boy's colour as it was seen as stronger than blue. Apparently. It changed somewhere along the line.

Not watching as would probably need blood pressure medication or Valium to do so, but reading with interest.

MrsToddsShortcut · 14/10/2018 21:50

Aaaand poor Jazz Jennings.

IAmNotInvisible · 14/10/2018 21:49

If it's as bad as you all say, hopefully it will be a big own goal for Mermaids.

I think it's bad because they've so far it's really coming across as just a stale lightweight drama about an 11 year old boy who desperately wants his parents to get back together.

The trans issue seems secondary and only there to give it a current twist which meant the media would be interested in talking about it.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:49

I can't believe that the TRAs think this is good:

Boy likes sparkles / pink
Father beats boy for liking sparkles / pink
Mother wanted a girl not another boy
Parents going through a divorce
Self-harming isolated 11 year old.
Boy hates his penis

Why the fuck would anyones immediate thought be that the boy is actually a girl, why the fuck would a GP suggest puberty blockers.

I'd be on the phone to social services and getting that poor kid some counselling.

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PlantsArePeopleToo · 14/10/2018 21:48

I'm not watching this but surely it can't all just be stereotypes? There's got to be more to it? Someone please tell me there is .

derxa · 14/10/2018 21:47

Watching in horror

Barracker · 14/10/2018 21:47

Acting is as wooden as Friel's stiff upper lip

Jodie777 · 14/10/2018 21:47

The acting is horrendous (as expected), shocking to see the boy say he felt better after slashing his wrist.

FishFingerPie · 14/10/2018 21:46

I agree - aside from all the stereotypes and cliches - it's just awful - not sure I'll make it to episode 3. Don't get all the rave reviews - it's a third rate Sunday night drams.